secure the agencies are searching a forest area outside the town of ken kerr to try to locate them.britain's best—known novelists, john le carre, has died. he was eighty—nine. a former secret agent, le carre drew on his own experiences to create hard—edged thrillers without the glamour of james bond —— but which proved to bejust as popular. james bond — but which proved to bejust as popular. many became films and tv series. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. in any society, the voices that are listened to, the stories that are shared say much about who is deemed to belong, who is excluded. on that basis, britain is changing. cultural power and influence may still disproportionately sit with those of us who are white and male but the achievements of my guest today, author bernardine evaristo, point to a changing landscape. she is the first black woman to win the prestigious booker fiction prize. awards are gratifying symbols, but how deep does the cultural change go? bernardine evaristo, welcome to talk. welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. good