brian: speaking of that, i want to show you a video of ken kesey.ou mention him in your book, and i get a sense that what you found in silicon valley has some connection with this. let's watch a little bit. [video clip] ♪ >> would you repeat that again? >> we weren't old enough to be beatniks and were too old to be hippies. we decided to travel across the country and buy a bus. it was like a troop of minstrels. >> cassity is going to drive the bus. >> it looked like a traveling pleasure palace, big, roomy, and spacious, until we got all the people in it. >> it was almost impossible for him to ever shut off. >> all you can do is experience this thing. >> ken really believe that things could be changed. >> people did not think we were hippies or drug freaks. >> the public cringed when they saw that bus. >> we are the merry band of pranksters. ♪ >> once pandora's box is open, you can't regulate who uses the stuff that flies out of it. i thought this was as american as you could get because we were exploring a new territory. brian: that was from a docum

ken kesey's 1939 schoolbus and outfitted to be this high-tech dorm.y went to tennessee and found justin bieber's old tour bus. there are going to have a decorated with computers and electronics. they ended up canceling the bus trip two weeks before. but it was completely based on that. brian: were you going to go? alexandra: yet, it was going to be a month, we are going to stop at colleges along the way, from new york to palo alto. it was supposed to be a rejection of all the things that institutions on the east coast had done. kesey'sleary from ken circle became a professor, and then this new version of the bus was going to take the kids away from the professors that were, you know -- said things that they disagree with. brian: what would, in your opinion, be the difference in the politics of the ken kesey crowd versus the crowd you got to know? alexandra: in a weird way, they would not be that different. if you were to say ken kesey -- a lot of the people i met out there were libertarians. in a strange way, it was not all that different. the behavio