as for ken klukowski, the deposition transcript that was just released is peppered with privilege objectionsd repetitions of, i do not recall. but, between those objections, an apparent memory lapse, klukowski it did say that he was a lawyer who drafted a letter from his boss, doj official, jeff clark. the loyalist that trump wanted to install as attorney general. as trump lauded away to remain in power. the committee describes the letter as a, quote, proof of concept letter to the state of georgia. asking them to look into election-related issues. proof of concept that are. we know that letter was riddled with bogus claims of election fraud. back with us for more on the revelations in these transcripts, kyle cheney, legal affairs of 44 politico, and former discerning for michigan. marc mcquade. barr, proof of concept letter how to pressure states into sending slates of fake electors, to overturn an election. is admitting to helping draft a proof of concept letter for such a thing, i mean, is there a criminal act in there that you would imagine the doj is examining? >> absolutely. this is no

communications between republican congressman scott perry, former doj officials jeffrey clark and ken klukowski as well as attorney john eastman and gets into their discussions around the 2020 election. jeffrey clark was penning an outline for a book about his experiences around the 2020 election. we now know federal investigators have this. this is a wealth of information. it gives you an idea how deep federal investigators are going into this. the other thing, we are just learning about this now because a version became unsealed. but this is what prosecutors have been looking into months ago. that is something else to remember as we get going monday and as we hear what the committee has to say. prosecutors are already very far down this road when it comes to investigating donald trump, his allies, and what was going on in the run up to january 6th. >>> i'm joined by our chief >> political analyst gloria borger, john dean, and senior analyst. gloria, how significant would it be for a former president of the united states to be referred to the justice department for criminal charges? >> it is h

ken klukowski, an important player at the department of justice. our team is digging through those. this comes after the committee released a transcript from a blockbuster witness, someone everyone knows from watching the hearings earlier today, cassidy hutchinson. new details about the pressure campaign a blockbuster witness face prd i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't care that they have weapons, they're not here to hurt me, take the effing bags away. >> reporter: as she fought to convey details, cassidy hutchinson told the committee her first attorney, cnn identified as former white house ethics lawyer stefan passentino, allegedly encouraged her to deceive congress and downplay events of january 6th. "the less you remember, the better," he said according to hutchinson's testimony and allegedly advised her to stop talking to the committee saying contempt is a small risk. hutchinson said the attorney, paid for by allies of former president trump, never explicitly told her to lie. "i don't want you to perjure yourself, but i don't recall isn't perjury,

pennsylvania, attorney john eastman and former justice department officials jeffrey clark and ken klukowski. as cnn's sara murray reports, the filings are giving us new insights into the federal investigation into the efforts of trump and his minions to overthrow democracy. >> reporter: the january 6th committee working down to the wire. >> i have a spent countless hours, along with the other committee members, going through the report and the appendixes looking at the footnotes, editing. >> reporter: members huddling behind closing doors to put the finishing touches on the plan they plan to unveil next week. hillary clinton they're saying they will outlay the findings monday. perhaps even the bulk of the report, if it's finished in time. >> we have made decisions on criminal referrals that will happen. >> the committee planning to reveal who they think should be held accountable with state bar discipline, referrals for possible campaign finance violations and referrals to the house ethics committee and the department of justice for possible criminal prosecution. >> we want to make sure no

he had a lot of people working for him, and ken klukowski was sent over by john eastman.eastman was of course the author of this plan, and so, they were working through th justice department to sort o legitimize what is, i think, and illegitimate theory. but, you know, if this theor were to be pursued, it would mean that you and i would vote in our home states, and, the if the legislature didn't like the outcome, they could find irregularities, throughout our votes, and substitute thei own. so, in these states, where thi was proposed, these four swing states that one for joe biden, where there were republica majorities in the stat legislators. suggesting that they threw out the votes of voters, and replace it with her own slate, effectively, stealing th election for their favorit candidate. >> deep breaths. stay calm, everyone. barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney ari melber, host of the beat i gotta say, are a, on thi appointed that you have no made an actual coup wrap reference. but believe that - >> you mean like the coup from california >> yes shout out to the cool.

ayers, mark esper, ken cla cow ski, and sarah matthews who's of course one of the other staffers from inside the west wing in the oval office during that period of time. so klukowskiof the former lawyers connected to the effort to overturning election, chris krebs talking about the lengths the administration was going to during that period of time. this is what it's going to be like between now and really the end of the year when the committee is dissolved where we're going to see them kind of trickling out these transcripts little by little. there are somewhere in the range of 300 transcripts. they conducted more than a thousand interviews, but not all of those interviews were under oath is and transcribed, many of them were informal conversations, more kind of investigative stages. 300 transcripts, many of them hundreds of pages. there's a lot of people in there that we haven't heard the full breath of their interviews, people like bill barr, general milley's transcript is one that we'll look for, all these different people that were very important and key players during this whole time that are going to be very interesting to see when they finally come out. >>