ken delaney. it is hard to keep track of from home. >> it is. you asked an important question yesterday. why should people care about these characters, what does this mean to president trump. let me lay it out up top. this is essentially the government saying these people were corrupt. that means there was corruption at the heart of rudy giuliani's inquiry in ukraine to try to get the ukrainians to investigate joe biden, to dig up dirt on donald trump's political opponent. trump is pressing ukraine to do this, and so is rudy giuliani, and he's in business with these now accused criminals. by the way, even before they were indicted yesterday on campaign finance charges, they're charged with illegally funneling foreign money into political campaigns, use of straw donations, even before that, they had a trail of debts and lawsuits. one case there's a half million dollar judgment against parnas after the judge found he took the life savings in a failed scheme to make a movie. these are characters with checkered pasts. parnas has a company called fraud guarantee, that was paying rudy giuliani, and giuliani has acknowledged he was paid to advise that company and give them business advice.