first, battle in london, ken livingstone versus borisjohnson.t says knife crime cops in the dark ages. this is a format police commissioner, lord bernard hogan howe, who says you need a knife * to obligate this issue, someone knife * to obligate this issue, someone who can look at all these issues —— knife tsar. someone who can see the bigger picture, and bring all the threads together to try to deal with this. you were about to start with your analysis as about to start with your analysis as a result of having worked with boris johnson on knife crime back in 2008. i think this is really interesting, just go into what the level of knife crime was then, and what happened when borisjohnson crime was then, and what happened when boris johnson became crime was then, and what happened when borisjohnson became mayor? crime was then, and what happened when boris johnson became mayor? the issue was that in the run—up to boris becoming the mayor, the numbers were not where they are now. we ended up with that campaign, there was a huge focus on knife crim