cruelty is the phrase used by some as regard to achieve it drives them people like the director ken loach. he's been on this program we depicted them of course famous. palme d'or winning film blake i think before i did the job at the food bank i would have thought that phrase was overblown but having seen the reality is really really hard to escape the notion that there is a conscious policy going on here to leave people in the us and possibly that somehow that will deter people from claiming benefit. i mean when i see someone who is money has been stopped overnight who has a disability who has maybe depression and is driven to the verge of you know feeling hopeless and despairing i have met people in line people who've been using the food bank who attempted suicide and it's very difficult to escape the feeling that there is a conscious cruelty going on terrorism thank you think here well in a moment we'll hear an excerpt from the play and if you're in london in the u.k. you can see it at seven pm at center in the seventeen in the wharf i'm sure that's it for the show they will be back on