like ken loach to all these amazing directors. a moment if i may, and the politics of yourfirst in a moment if i may, and the politics of your first film, let hang. butjust on this question with what happened in of rebellion in france, the truth is the audience did not grow and see it, it's not the french film industry... know, totall , i the french film industry... know, totally, i totally _ the french film industry... know, totally, i totally understand. - the french film industry... know, totally, itotally understand. i- totally, i totally understand. i don't know if i would've gone to see that movie because, you know, life is not really good right now and actually people want to, you know, you want to wind down, when you go to the movies you want to relax a little bit. this is not a very relaxing movie. and it makes you smell your own faeces, you know, it doesn't feel good. it's something that you need to be proactive about and i understand that people don't want that but what i'm shocked about is if the industry because that

and let's be honest, that leadership video was, you know, slightly ken loach ish.t was pretty communistic, but this is clever politics from him, isn't it? because this idea of don't vote for labour, there's too much jeopardy he's trying to extinguish with claims that he's the party of wealth, wealth creation. now that he is a moderate, that he's abandoned those corbyn principles . those corbyn principles. >> i don't think the woman protester was listening very carefully , because what you carefully, because what you heard at the end of that was the whole point of what keir starmer was after. and any politician would be too. so you can't blame him, which is we are the party. we are a party of power. and so i think he's concealing his hand all the way through this about what will happen once they are in power. he doesn't want to talk about the future, what the big plans are for, how they will actually levy the sort of taxes that he hasn't yet admitted to. he's admitted that he won't increase certain taxes, but there are plenty of other tax revenue streams which he co

the staff apparently refused to work , mike apparently refused to work, mike leigh and ken loach stepped your point about should we ban protests? people tried to get the psc counter protest banned. they didn't succeed, which is a good thing because thousands of local people then came out and saw them off, pushed them down the tube. push them down the tube. that sounds a bit, you know, but they basically pushed the demonstrators down so that it was had to leave the area. yes. and that gave people a real feeling of strength and a feeling of strength and a feeling of strength and a feeling of success and solidarity, which wouldn't have happened if you'd had the bureaucratic banning of that particular event. okay. >> very interesting. well, finally, where can people find out about your organisation then? >> so we have a website, our fight.uk. there's a mailing list there. we're on twitter, our fight uk and then we're on, instagram. our underscore fight underscore uk. >> fantastic. mark birkbeck, thanks very much for joining me. >> thank you very much. and next on free speech nation jenny wat