groups, i should say black groups and how they define themselves and levels of multiraciality, and so ken pruid, director of the 2000 census has a book coming out on this question, his feeling is outside of the redistricting realm that pay attention to the census and the racial categories and see how that will alter people's conceptualization, but with respect to redistricting and the voting rights act the real question is, yeah, there's no difference in voting behavior, then there's no claim so we don't need to account for it. >> thank you, my name is jeff schwartz. i will any of saratoga. my key computer passwords are -- [ laughter ] could you comment generally on the interaction in challenges, if there have been some, of district determination and the primary process and particularly here in california, approaching the first open primary, where it would seem that that might either add to or undo some of the court imposed restrictions andimposeed restrictions in the vetting rights act. >> not positive, i get that, i think that -- so tlaets a loss on the ways to talk about that topic. the depe