including some 40,000 jobs over 20 years says economist steven fuller, but loudoun board member ken reed doesn't buy it. >> unfortunately there are a lot of people with stars in their eyes about this and they think it's going to improve their real estate values and bring all these great jobs and we're going to have little bethesda, but that's very speculative. >> reporter: he thinks ridership will be low, it won't so of traffic congestion and most loudoun -- solve traffic congestion and most loudoun county residents won't use it. >> their bus and train operators are paying about $66,000 a year on average and some of these folks are making six figures with overtime which is more than we pay our teachers '. >> reporter: if loudoun o.s out commuters could probably -- opts out, commuters could probably still use a metro dulles rail station, but they'd probably want to be dropped off because that garage next to where the station will be built costs $17 a day. airport authority ceo jackpotter hopes loudoun joins in. >> what they get again is development around the stations, convenience for the

40,000 jobs over 20 years as economist -- says economist steven fuller but loudoun board member ken reed doesn't buy it. >> unfortunately there are a lot of people that have stars in their eyes about this. they think it's going to improve their real estate values and bring all these great jobs and we'll have a little bethesda but that's very special live. >> reporter: he thinks ridership will be low, won't solve traffic congestion and most loudoun residents won't use it and he dislikes being connected to metro and all of its costs and problems. >> train operators are paying $56,000 a year on average and some people are making six figures with overtime which is more than we pay our teachers. >> reporter: loudoun commuters could probably still use a dulles metrorail station but they'd probably want to be dropped off because that garage next to where the station will be built costs $17 a day. airports authority c.e.o. jackpotter hopes loudoun joins in. >> what they get is again development around the stations, convenience for the folks that live in loudoun to access the metro to get to work

. >> joy reed and ken vogel, welcome to both of you.mitt romney, has been taking on the chin over bain. we've had "the washington post," "new york times," "boston globe," all revealing how bain always wins and makes money regardless of what happens to the company they've invested in and yet, he's nowhere to be seen. he's not even arguing his case anymore. is that because he doesn't think it matters? >> i think that the problem for mitt romney is number one, he centered his campaign around number one, the economy, number two, his being a business man. that this is his calling card. >> and not being a community organizer who knows nothing about business. >> exactly. i know business. this is what i've done. but that opens up the scrutiny as to what his business was about. it wasn't about creating jobs. it was about reaping profits. the stories are pretty devastating. talks about bain extracting profess and then the second piece is about a outsourting part. i don't think he came up with an answer for that and i think maybe his staff is fail

ken vogel, reporter for politico. and "washington post" columnist dana milbank and msnbc contributor joy reed, the managing editor of the grio.com. ken, the excellence of your reporting is before us once again with you pointing out wall street has dumped its love affair with the president and fallen for mitt romney. so the seven-year itch is reduced to just three. i guess they've forgotten that many freewheeling lack of regulation brought the country to its knees. >> well, it's not just the regulation which of course has increased under the obama administration in the form of dodd-frank overhaul but it's also the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and fear among wall street types particularly hedge funders he'll do away with this so-called carried interest provision that allowed mitt romney to continue to profit from his holdings in boyne capital and pay a relatively low tax rate on it. additionally, the president has engaged in a lot of aggressive rhetoric towards wall street targeting it. wall street fat cats. we've heard that a lot from the president and his campaign. wall streeters are not happy about th