joining me here in new york to discusses are ken rogoff from harvard, also time's assistant managing editor and cnn's global economics analyst and in london is zani meadows, editor-in-chief of the economist. zanny, the economist has a lead editorial saying to stay in the eurozone can greece's prime minister will the have to jettisoned almost every promise he made to his voters. can you hear me? >> fareed i'm sorry i can't hear you. >> we'll go to rona and ken while they're fixing the mic issues. ronna, it always seemed as those germany at the end of the day was willing to bay out greece that it pushed hard. it did -- it really made it look like it was trying its damndest. but every time it stared at the abyss, it pulled back and told the european central bank provide the funds. it wrote the checks. this time seems different. >> this time is different. you're right that it seed like germany's leaders were really working to make a deal but if you spend any time in germany, you see the public at large really never wanted the deal with greece. the german public i think feels like let the