ken smith is with us. we heard the air traffic communication with the pilot at asiana airlines. and there's an sfo fire diameter right on scene, so response was swift and hopefully effective here. when you see the smoke here as a firefighter, you guys and women come in there with equipment and ready to go. these are passengers that are going to have to inhale all of this. what are the extent of injuries we could see here in terms of what you're seeing? >> in terms of what i'm seeing, again, just looking at it, it almost looks like a calm scenario at this point where the fire was outside of the plane at that particular time in that photo you just had up. from a distance, again, depending on what's burning, if it was sitting down in the dirt, it's possible that, you know, it smoldered a little bit, and the black that you see is mostly going to be fuel if it's on the outside of that plane. if you notice there's no smoke coming out of -- appears to be no smoke coming out of the cockpit area where the slides are. so i would say it was not inside the cabin at that time. so, you know,