ken starr was a member of the judiciary. we lost him when he answered the the call to public service to go into the justice department and then to become the solicitor general of the united states, and he was chief justice warren berger's law clerk, and he has his own book about the court, "first among equals." paul clement has argued 51 cases the supreme court of the united states. you've passed the 50 mark. and paul was a clerk when i was here at the court. he was a clerk for justice scalia and as a partner of king and spaulding. there are professor or ken geller is managing partner of meyer brown. he is contributing editor of supreme court practice. i'm not sure if it's deliberate that you keep that in one volume. it's getting bigger. [laughter] but the supreme court practice book there mr. geller co-edits and he has great experience because he himself has been a so husband to have -- solicitor general and deputy solicitor general and has argued 30 cases before this court. the fact that he has this argument experience and