an independent counsel in the past being appointed it can be found you may recall in the case of ken starr during the clinton administration he investigated whitewater the death of deputy white house counsel vince foster and of course the monica lewinsky scandal now here this week a lobbying lawmakers in support of this letter is james could two lists president and co-founder of the commodity customer coalition working pro bono mind you on behalf of m.f. global customers trying to get their money back he's also c.e.o. of the hedge fund. hyphen capital management i should mention he's a lawyer too so he wears many hats he's been on the show before and we're great happy to have you here to give us an update thanks to ran here so i want to get to all your efforts on the hill over the last couple days but first let's talk about why you're pushing for an independent counsel because i from what i understand these are attorneys who investigate and prosecute criminal activity in government corazon obviously is no longer in government is this because you want to independent counsel to investigate h

. >> like which university ken starr worked at. >> one to go. this is it. here we go.wrist, surrounding his actions in the chappaquiddick incident. >> i made immediate efforts to save mary jo by diving into the strong, murky current, but succeeded only in increasing my state of utter exhaustion and alarm. >> a bit skeptical. but mary jo and other women who had been at the party the night of the accident had been workers on whose political campaign? >> this is it... let's see if you can tie -- come on. cards up, please. let's go. yes! it's a tie! thank you for watching this special great american news quiz edition of the factor tonight. i'm bill o'reilly. please, always remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> hello, i'm frank luntz. tonight, we will be doing something you will only see here on fox news. we are bringing the politicians straight to the people for a very special look at the 2012 elections and much more. we have assembled a group of energized voters -- republicans and democrats. they will come face to face w

. >> like which university ken starr worked at. >> one to go. this is it. here we go. on the wrist, surrounding his actions in the chappaquiddick incident. >> i made immediate efforts to save mary jo by diving into the strong, murky current, but succeeded only in increasing my state of utter exhaustion and alarm. >> a bit skeptical. but mary jo and other women who had been at the party the night of the accident had been workers on whose political campaign? >> this is it... let's see if you can tie -- come on. cards up, please. let's go. yes! it's a tie! thank you for watching this special great american news quiz edition of the factor tonight. i'm bill o'reilly. please, always remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out you. >> hello, i'm frank luntz. tonight, we will be doing something you will only see here on fox news. we are bringing the politicians straight to the people for a very special look at the 2012 elections and much more. we have assembled a group of energized voters -- republicans and democrats. they will come face to fa

c-span: by the way, again, sorry to the interrupt, but ken starr is the president of baylor universitynow, and it's in waco, texas, in case people didn't know where it is. and you wrote about the three that were the contestants -- roger rosen brat who people would know from public television, and two other gentlemen, do you remember their names? i'll try to find them. oh, mr. berger, edward berger? >> guest: he was actually the eventual winner. c-span: and elliott west. >> guest: yes. at the university of arkansas. so i actually went to see berger and west in person, and they're two very different kind of styles of teaching. west is, you know, he's not dry, but, you know, he sort of is telling a story, and he's been telling this story about american history for many years. there aren't a lot of fireworks or she shenanigans going on, bui was sitting in an audience of 200 people, and the only visual aids, he was putting up some slides of, you know, of historical photos. everyone was just sitting there and listening to him utterly rapt because he kind of knew how to tell a story, and ther