joining me from washington is ken stern, he profiled bannon in august for "vanity fair" magazine. also joshua green of "bloomberg businessweek" and philip rucker to have "the washington post" and michael shear of the "new york times." michael, i'll begin with you. tell me where do you think trump is and before we specifically focus on steve bannon, tell me where you think the principle appointment that might be coming out soon. >> well, i think where we are is in a much more chaotic place than you normally are a week out after an election. the reporting that we've done here at the "times" and phil and folks have done at "the washington post" and elsewhere suggest that the transition has been very rocky, they had to change leadership in the first couple of days, ended up pushing out chris christie and an entire team. they brought in a new team. now they're frantically working on the 26th floor of the trump tower to try to put together the first big announcement after, of course, mr. bannon and the announcement of the chief of staff, we're waiting for rudy giuliani, the former mayor

joining me now is ken stern. he profiled bannon in vanity fair.lso with us, joshua green and philip rucker and michael shear. tell me -- where do you think trump is? before we focus on steve bannon, tell me where you think the principal point might be coming out soon? >> where we are is in a much more chaotic place than you normally are a week after the election. the reporting we have done at the times and phil and folks have done elsewhere, the transition has been rocky. they had to change leadership in the first couple of days, ended up pushing out chris christie and an entire team. now they are working to put together the first big announcements after mr. bannon and the announcement of chief of staff. we are waiting for rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york. jeff sessions, senator from alabama, two names that have been bandied about. we do not have much of a sense of timing. there is no real communication from the transition team to reporters about a timing we might expect or particular role. charlie: tell me about chris christie. what happen

joining me now is ken stern. he profiled bannon in vanity fair. joshua green and philip rucker and miae

joining me now is ken stern. he profiled bannon