host: we should point out examples on both sides of the aisle, a piece by ken vogel at politico.com focused on the koch brothers. a memo outlines their plans for 2016 and begins with the following -- ira is next from west palm beach florida. host: on the line for independent with meredith mcgehee. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, you are on the air. caller: yes, i heard you all say that with these campaign funds we get no blowback from the public the right or the left correct? guest: for the dark money groups, right. caller: right, but the question i have is, if you have given under a small business huh? under the small business and you are giving, you still have a limit of what you can give. guest: when it comes to a dark money group or super pac, there is no limit on how much you can give. there are limits on how much you can give directly to a candidate. super pacs cannot give directly to a candidate nor can a dark money group. then you have the old-fashioned and traditional political action committee or pack which can give 5002 at candidate for the primary and 5000 fo

. >> i'm going to bring in ken vogel, chief investigative reporter for politico ken, good morning. >> good to be with you, jose. >> in addition to the benghazi and private e-mails, there's donor problems and the clinton foundation which is more problems for hillary clinton's campaign, no? >> this is not going away. obviously this "clinton cash" become by peter schweizer has really brought it to the fore it's resumed sort of -- increased the media scrutiny of these relationships with donors who republicans allege got favorable treatment from hillary clinton at the state department as a result of their donations to the foundation. what we found is looking at the other side. looking at the foundation that these are hurting the foundation which was supposed to be a strength for hillary clinton headed into a presidential campaign and for her family's political legacy it's not working out that way at all. >> and how much talk is there among hillary's strategist that former president bill clinton should scale back his role in the foundation because he's clearly the guy who was out there, he'

ken vogel said his reporting is sheldon adelson called mitt romney and said, hey, you should run in 2016 who sheldon adelson steam rolled in 2012 wanted him to run. where do you think they are? >> they're still officially uncommitted. apparently he likes rubio a lot. he's been featured several times on their newspaper in israel that they own. what i'm hearing is miriam is becoming very partial to ted cruz. apparently he impressed her at the republican jewish coalition conference last month in las vegas. i also witnessed sheldon giving a standing ovation to ted cruz at a gala in new york. >> this is an interesting dilemma. so in 2012 a lot of people looked at all that money that was going to gingrich saying he's not backing a winner. a lot of people might look at the dilemma between cruz and rubo, saying rubio has got the electability that ted cruz doesn't. >> i don't think -- of course they want this person elected. when you have as much money as the adelsons, do, why not? if you really like that horse, why not back it till the end. >> did we reach a point there is blowback to this in te

i want to bring in ken vogel of politico. good morning. i am wondering if the timing of the release of e-mails in january will play a part in hillary clinton's campaign. >> yeah, absolutely. there's no way around. this is really bad timing. on a lot of these things, on the benghazi testimony, release of e-mails she and her allies would prefer that the band-aid be ripped off right now as we're still 539 day as way from the general election. by extending it you extend press coverage and also are going to have a rush of coverage and scrutiny right when the release is she going to change that? is she going to become available, do you think? have you been told to the press in the following days, weeks months? how long is it going to take? >> reporter: i think it would be hard to see her not taking a few questions over the next several days. i can tell you i've been talking to her campaign officials, her strategy here is to get up close and personal with voters. that's why she's holding smaller, intimate events. it's a departure from her strateg

host: we should point out examples on both sides of the aisle, a piece by ken vogel at politico.com focusedn the koch brothers. a memo outlines their plans for 2016 and begins with the following -- ira is next from west palm beach florida. host: on the line for independent with meredith mcgehee. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, you are on the air. caller: yes, i heard you all say that with these campaign funds we get no blowback from the public the right or the left correct? guest: for the dark money groups, right. caller: right, but the question i have is, if you have given under a small business huh? under the small business and you are giving, you still have a limit of what you can give. guest: when it comes to a dark money group or super pac, there is no limit on how much you can give. there are limits on how much you can give directly to a candidate. super pacs cannot give directly to a candidate nor can a dark money group. then you have the old-fashioned and traditional political action committee or pack which can give 5002 at candidate for the primary and 5000 for