[laughter] >> my nam is ken williams, political science student at ohio university.n obamacare, with -- how -- where there's a distrust theme for the insurance companies because they want to make a profit, that te solution to that is to andate the insurance companies. >> where the idea comes from, i dot know, it's a dumb ida. [laughter] [applause] insurance companies have incentives to provide the right mix of coverage at competitive premiums, and obamacare mandates this and that coverage, that interferes with private choices. private choices that give rise to better policies in absence mandates. john: thank you, out of time fr questions for this segment. thank you abby and john, and if you want to keep the conversation going, here's the twitter hash tag, isflc. i don't know how you remember that, but stands fr international students fr liberty conference, which is where we are. let people know what you think. coming up, what do you know about america's founding documents? i'll give you and our student audience a quiz. [chees and applause] [ female announcer ] it's t