like kendall crenshaw's work and derek bell so i'm not a critical race theorist. but of course it's been applied, supremacist. that racism is structured into thesociety . at absolutely. >> like you switched the question, to how, with regards to the critical race theory debate, i want to ask a question, why? why critical race theory, why now? when it seems to me these moments to assert that america is not a racist society, to attack 1619, to attack crt. all this is aimed as we said at the beginning of this conversation is aimed at arresting change.limit the scope of remedy. you're not bad so we can't engage in this wholesale transformation of who we are. where not that, where this. instead of debating crt on its merits because most ey people don't even know what it is. we need to ask ourselves why it's being asked what i want to get to this. it seems to me that this is where nice racism is done, at the level of politics because you have the two sides as you describe them. and i don't want to make all of those persons on the right, the daily caller subscribers or wh