>> host: well, now on your screen on booktv is keni thomas, and he has written this book, "get it on: what it means to lead the way." keni thomas, tell usabout your experience, your connection with blackhawk down. >> i was part of the 75th ranger rebelment -- regiment, and we were part of the guys that went in on that raid -- >> '94? >> '93. close though. everything changed when the first helicopter got shot down, and just like that, the course of our lives changed. so what i get from that is anybody that's going to make it out of something others didn't, you're going to spend the rest of your life thank those on your right and left that day, so you'll use every opportunity you can to tell their storying or whether it do it through music or a book, i'm going to tell the story. >> walk us through that day. >> dude, there's been documentaries on that, we'd be here for hours, but i can tell you -- >> your experience. >> my experience, everybody thought it was going to a -- to be a normal thing. what we didn't know is we would lose 18 guys. of the 130 of us that went in, a ton of us got wounded and hit. those numbers would have been signifi