i think the utah case, kenji, is part of it. if there isn't momentum in utah, which i suspect there may not be momentum in utah around this, should the court decide differently? there's stheng about the inherent civil rights that feel to me, like, well, if the people aren't ready, maybe the people should just get ready. >> yeah. it's going to be such an interesting case study because you look at the polling data, you showed national polls earlier, but if you do it state by state, utah is always in the bottom five with respect to how much it favors same-sex marriage. if there's a backlash, it will be utah. given it was done on federal grounds, there's nothing the voters can do about it short of calling for a constitutional convention. but it will be interesting to see where the backlash occurs. there are two theories. one is i want to hug you whenever you say, like, should not be put up for a popular vote so the judges have to be brave and do what's right. whenever you say that, i want to give you a hug. on the other hand, what s