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we reached out to the town of kenly to get more specifics on this issue. we have not heard back yet, but the town council is expected to meet soon to come up with a resolution. >> john: all kinds of resignation letters, untenable situations, but nobody has given us the full details why it's all taking place. maybe we will learn soon. >> john: charles, thank you. >> sandra: leo terrell is joining us, this has been an interesting story to track down. we were tipped off early friday morning leo and tried to chase it down, there were only local news reports on it. and then obviously of national attention considering what is happening with police departments across the country. any sort of formal response from the town on this, but you've got a police chief in that town, kenly, north carolina, that has been there for 21 years, most of which he has served as chief. he received resignation letters from his officers but he turned his directly, we are told, into that new town leader. what are we supposed to make of the situation where there's a town in america wher

the johnston county sheriff's office, which already services kenly, will increase its presence in townice department will be gone. according to the town's website for the police park, they should be staffing that still includes 2 part-time police officers, don but i spoke with the town attorney, he tells me that as far as he is aware, there is simply are no more officers once those resignations take effect next week. i also reached out or attempted to reach out to those who were involved in the situation. the attorney for chief josh caption tells me that they will work on getting an interview but noted that the chief is stepping back from interviews for a bit because of the amount amounts a stress that the situation is causing his family. >> diane, great reporting, standby because i want to discuss this more. i want to bring in cnn legal analyst rib marin, who is a civil rights attorney, good evening to you. reiber, i don't know for sure, i am not there, but it is one of those things that make you go -- situations, right? the independent investigation starts next week. you think that t

it almost sounds like a movie m every singleov full time office, including the police chief of kenly north carolina, has resigned in protest of a new. town manager. chief josh gibson said justins jones is creating a hostilet work environment and the department can no longer perform its duties and its services to the community. echief gibson joins me now exclusively along with his attorney, phil beck. chief, how has the town manager created a hostile work environment for law enforcement? >> so turn me in, first of all, to start doing traffic and all these projects all the time and enforce a very low land department. we only have a five officers and there's always working double shifts at the time to try to keep up officer safety and be there with other officers in case somethinger happened. we're talking about two abo thousand people and so she kept on doing things like that, being at one point she wrote me up and she wrote me up for being late for work. i was like, no, ma'am, i haven't been late to work at any time. she saide,, yes, you have to be in the hallway in the foyer year. yo

every single full-time officer, including the police chief of kenly north carolina has resigned in protestwn manager. chief josh gibson said justine jones is creating a hostile work environment and the department can no longer perform its duties and its services to the community. chief gibson joins me now exclusively along with his attorney. chief, how has the town manager created a hostile work environment for law enforcement? >> well, she came in, first of all, to start giving us tasks in all these projects all the time and unfortunately we are -- we only have five officers and i was working double shifts at the time to try to keep up officer safety and be there with the other officers in case something happened. we were paying about 2,000 people. and so she kept doing things like that. then at one point she wrote me up and she wrote me up for being late for work, and i was like no, ma'am, i haven't been late to work at anything. she said yes you have, you've either been in the hallway, in the foyer, you have not been sitting at your desk at 8:00 in the morning. then she wrote me up for

let's bring in brock wiley, the owner of davis drug company in kenly. brock, thanks for joining us.t's not every day we see an entire police force of an american town just walk out the door. what is happening there? >> yeah, i mean, i was completely surprised just like everybody else in the town. at first i thought the worst, that maybe there was some sort of scandal going on or something, but what it turns out, we found out that new town manager has come in and has kind of nitpicked apart the entire town, we are very small knit community police force of only five full-time people, so when you start getting in the way of them doing their job then environment and unable to do their job. >> these are guys on the job for a year or two -- in the case of the police chief himself, josh gibson, he along with four other officers submitted a two-week resignation, happened last wednesday. he's been with the police department 21 years and served the majority of those years as chief. and the other officers that resigned handed their letters directly to the police chief, the police chief himself

and what legal options the residents of the town in kenly, north carolina have. >> john: but first tonomic news. a ror

she and kenly council members had little to say about the resignation is following an emergency closednd we talked to a shop owner to says that's not good enough. >> the county response is 30 to 60 minutes at some point and having a police force, especially owning a pharmacy and not having a police presence for 30 to 40 minutes is quite shocking. >> yeah, and so the police chief or former police chief now says, reportedly says he would consider returning to that police department. only if the town manager is gone, jacqui. >> charles watson for us, thank you. >> new battle lines between parents and schools are drawn over increasing calls for new mask mandates for kids headed back to the classroom next month. that's coming up. i got into debt in college and, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. so i consolidated it into a low-rate personal loan from sofi. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k. sofi. get your money right. my little family is me, aria, and jade. just the three of us girls. i never thought twice about feeding her kibble.