the most formal is the oval office, the second was camp david, and the most intimate was kennebunkport, walker's point, because that was his home, that was purely personal. >> guest: you know, that's an interesting point--and i don't know how other presidents looked at it, other national security advisers, other secretaries of state--but i believe having someone in your home is a great tension-breaker. i'll never forget going down to chile and the president had a dinner. here--here we were with a huge entourage and a great big boeing 747 and all kinds of people, and the president had us in his very, very modest home, and there wasn't barely room to get 10 people in the dining room. and he had his grandchildren out there, and it was tremendously flattering to me and--and--and conducive to the kind of--the kinda conversations that brent just alluded to. c-span: let me--you open up on--on one of the chapters where you go into some lengths about the oval office, and i'll just read a little bit of it. it's chapter 2. you say, 'the oval office itself is not that large, but it has a special a