there's a great story i tell in the book when he's in kennebunkport and he's asked by reporters what he's doing on vacation in kennebunkport, and he said, i'm going to do some tennis, some golf, some motor boating, some running, some -- some horseshoes. and i'll do a little reading. reading wasn't his top priority either. >> over the years when you looked back at the books that had an impact on a president, what did you find? and the impact on us is people. >> that's my inspiration of writing this book. i was curious if it had an impact. one of the most famous stories is this -- michael harrington wrote about poverty in west virginia. kennedy is supposed to have read that book and it led to the war on poverty. not quite that simple. it didn't happen quite that way. he read a book review by dwight mcdonald in the "new yorker" and that inspires kennedy to tell walter heller who is the chairman of the council of economic advisors to go look to policies that can be used to alleviate poverty. kennedy died in 1963. he said that's not my program. he pursued it as president. >> were there ye