that is kennecott and 6:00 tomorrow on c-span. detroit, michigan.arrelle has been waiting on our independent line. caller: good morning. first of all, i would like to state the third-party idea has been around for a long time and it has always failed. we need something more effective. what we can do is deselect every incumbent candidate on the ballot. right now there is something like 899% vote for incumbents, but we -- if we voted against every incumbent on the ballot, i promise we would get some action in washington. host: 8 your ways in by saying this -- nasa sends up a probe today to take a look at mars. specifically, this is the mars science laboratory. it includes a rover, which will be carried 300 did the 4 million miles to the planet on an unmanned rocket. in the other papers there is a picture of curiosity. that is the picture. you can read more about it in the wall street journal and other papers this morning, but the picture is provided by the wall street journal. karl on the republican line from pennsylvania. caller: i guess that most of