. >> speaking of crisis, 20 years ago, gosh 20 years ago you helped lead kenner fitzgerald out of 9/11. for the viewers who are too young to remember, kenner fitzgerald was in one of the twin towers and took a direct hit by one of the airliners. and 687 cantor fitzgerald employees died in the 9/11 attacks. nearly destroyed the company. you helped lead it out. are there parallels there? normally i would never make a parallel to 9/11 but of course last weekend 3,000 americans died from covid-19. so there are some parallels. >> i have been asked many times over the years how did that team at cantor go back to work? how did you guys do that with all that was going on around you, and the pain and the suffering that everybody was going through? i think for all of us then, and i think this is true of a lot of people now, it was about having no other choice. you had to go back to work because the heaviness of what we were dealing with was too hard and the on way we could consider a future was to know that we could put the company back together and do it in honor of the people that we lost and