here kenneth chesbro essentially acknowledges that he conspired with donald trump, john eastman, rudyliani and others. what does that mean for the fulton county da's case going forward? >> it certainly helps. look, the way that this was set up, these attorneys were going to have their trial first, i think they went out in front and tried to do that because they recognized at a joint trial with donald trump and john eastman and others, ultimately what was going to happen is donald trump and others were going to be pointing fingers at the attorneys and saying the attorneys put them up to it, the attorneys blessed this and said it was okay. now instead of having that dynamic where the defendants are pointing fingers at each other, now the attorneys are going to say, we committed crimes and these people were part of it. and i think that makes the da's case stronger and i also think it creates problems for some of the other defendants including some of the other attorneys. >> is he a stronger witness than sidney powell? >> it's not possible to be a weaker witness than sidney powell. i supp

we had the news about sidney powell and kenneth chesbro so if you could explain that. guest: they both took plea deals and are agreeing to testify. in the past, we have seen president's legal troubles only provide him a boost in the polls. now when you got people who are sort of on team trump and are and will testify, we don't know what we will hear from them. that trial is still a ways away and it could certainly mix things up when it around. i don't want to speculate whether it would be good or bad for him because it's such a curveball. host: you wrote a piece in the washington examiner about nikki haley and how she is turning to surge in the polls. what's going on with that and how are her opponents trying to go after her? guest: nikki haley was sort of stagnant when she entered the race. when she got on the debate stage, she performed well and was well received. it was relatively unexpected. she had lower expectations than ron desantis for example. she began to surge. she is still not anywhere close to donald trump just to keep that in context. but she is showing a

kenneth chesbro and sidney powell both accepted plea deals in that election subversion case.t do you think this means for donald trump? >> there is a great scene in the movie ghost where whoopi goldberg says to demi moore, mollie, you in danger, girl. i would say exactly that to donald trump. people were giving the da a hard time for the number of indictments she leveled, wondering whether she is biting off more than she could chew ringing this huge case and we are seeing why she did it. because she knew as all prosecutors know that someone or multiple someone's will flip. what's interesting is we went from a bail bondsman to the coo in sidney powell to the chief architect in kenneth chesbro. if you are donald trump and those were your fellow defendants, i would be quaking. i would be shivering in my boots. >> how do you see it? >> the significant thing according to legal experts was that powell got an awesome deal. she did stuff that was credibly felonious and with this deal she gets probation. the fact that they offered her such a sweet deal is a sign they really want her t

kenneth chesbro in particular, the guy thought of as the architect.nceived of the idea of having these alternate slates of electors sent to washington. he has admitted those slates were for gillette. that's a big -- fraudulent. when trump now goes to trial, mark meadows goes to trial, kenneth chesbro has provided a sworn statement to the d.a. saying yes, as a person involved in this i attest they were fraudulent and that will be very difficult to rebut when trump goes to trial and his lawyer says kenneth chesbro is not on the truth because he provided that sworn statement. host: jenna ellis? guest: she was not directly to do with the fay collector scheme but she played these -- fake electors schemes which he played a role in the conspiracies with respect to submitting false statements to the georgia state legislature, submitting false statements with the rudy giuliani and sidney powell. you see how the d.a. is moving up the ranks. she has at least three lawyers involved in the 2020 election effort to plead guilty. host: how many accounts are against t

we had the news about sidney powell and kenneth chesbro so if you could explain that. guest: they both took plea deals and are agreeing to testify. in the past, we have seen president's legal troubles only provide him a boost in the polls. now when you got people who are sort of on team trump and are and will testify, we don't know what we will hear from them. that trial is still a ways away and it could certainly mix things up when it around. i don't want to speculate whether it would be good or bad for him because it's such a curveball. host: you wrote a piece in the washington examiner about nikki haley and how she is turning to surge in the polls. what's going on with that and how are her opponents trying to go after her? guest: nikki haley was sort of stagnant when she entered the race. when she got on the debate stage, she performed well and was well received. it was relatively unexpected. she had lower expectations than ron desantis for example. she began to surge. she is still not anywhere close to donald trump just to keep that in context. but she is showing a

at the fulton county courthouse there in the racketeering case against former trump attorney kenneth chesbro, you see his mugshot there. we've also learned that he has been offered a plea deal and we could learn at any moment if he's going to take that deal. just yesterday we learned on r peon charged alongside trump and chesbro, sidney powell, she pleaded guilty as part of another plea deal, and in doing so agreed to testify in future trials which would mean testifying against donald trump. we have a lot going on here and it's playing out in court as we speak. we have cnn's katelyn polantz in new york, nick valencia is outside court and elie honig joining us as well. nick, you broke the news about the plea deal being on the table. any news on what is in that offer and what is happening in court as we speak? >> reporter: good morning, kate. the source with knowledge of these discussions didn't give me the details of this plea deal, only to tell me that ken chesbro was offered the deal by the fulton county district attorney's office and those discussions went well into the evening last night.

we had the news about sidney powell and kenneth chesbro so if you could explain that.took plea deals and are agreeing to testify. in the past, we have seen president's legal troubles only provide him a boost in the polls. now when you got people who are sort of on team trump and are and will testify, we don't know what we will hear from them. that trial is still a ways away and it could certainly mix things up when it around. i don't want to speculate whether it would be good or bad for him because it's such a curveball. host: you wrote a piece in the washington examiner about nikki haley and how she is turning to surge in the polls. what's going on with that and how are her opponents trying to go after her? guest: nikki haley was sort of stagnant when she entered the race. when she got on the debate stage, she performed well and was well received. it was relatively unexpected. she had lower expectations than ron desantis for example. she began to surge. she is still not anywhere close to donald trump just to keep that in context. but she is showing an upward trend whi

trump campaign legal adviser kenneth chesbro is now the third co-defendant in the election interferencety. chesebro entered the plea friday as jury selection for his trial s under way. he was charged with one felony count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents. he faces five years of probation and a $5,000 fine, among other terms. he will also be required to provide documents and evidence to the state. chesebro had rejected an earlier deal and was set to stand trial alone after co-defendant sidney powell took a deal last week. as for powell, trump is now claiming she was never actually his lawyer. >> really? >> yeah. >> that's interesting. i'm so confused. >> because he used to say she was. >> rit. >> in a post on truth social. >> truth, truth social. >> w put that in quotes, truth. >> truth social. >> trump said, quot ms. powell was not my attorney and never was. >> huh. >> however, that contradicts a november 2020 tweet in which trump wrote powell had joined his legal team and the team was being spearheaded by his personal attorney, rudy giuliani. >> truly great team. wonderfu