kenneth leon of cfra joins us now. what does jamie dimon need from president biden? kenneth: he needs to set the tone for confidence of the country, and to make sure that we are going back to a period of normalcy as it relates to how people think and live. as it relates to the economy, the stimulus is coming and it will help the consumer and small business. probably we will see that benefit by the second quarter. and this covid-19, we did see a reserve release of $2.9 billion after building up to 33.8 billion. that tells me that other than distressed industries like energy or leisure, the economy has strong footing for 2021. banks will benefit from that. tom: when miss basak walked into the studio, her first figure was -- percent. the rest the scope and scale of that number. cam: it is a norm is, and it speaks to the buildup of capital and the opportunity of the return of capital with buybacks and dividends to shareholders. with yield and cash flow and that type of return, it is obviously going to flow to investors. can they sustain that? it is questionable. certainly