if there is a way to see it referred to with kenneth marcus, then perhaps that is the way to go. but for now, it will label anti-israel actions on campus as anti-semitic, and it will squash free speech, and that's a mistake. >> thank you. rabbi cooper. >> congressman conyers, we know each other for a few decades. and just to summarize, the american jewish community wall to wall it here this morning because we need your help. and as a leader in the civil rights movement, and along with the chairman, we're here because we have a defined problem. you've heard the statistics from the anti-defamation league. they're quite shocking. what's happening here is happening in realtime, and those who refuse to recognize the problem of anti-semitism, well, it's kind of like inviting people from the flat earths society to a hearing about nasa. >> thank you. dr. trachtenberg. >> thank you. what i would say as a a comment that i hope you leave here with today is listen seriously, please, to what the faculty who work in jewish studies are asserting. what you've heard from the president of the asso