kenneth osgood talks about the program's u.s. operations, which saw funds and support from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25-minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. steve: kenneth, i want to talk about your book and a moment, but we hear a lot, especially from our current president, "fake news." what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. untruths propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back to 1898, 1 episode that comes to mind is on the eve of the spanish-american war william randolph hearst, the , powerful media magnet of his day, sent a photographer down to war anddocument the report cables to hearst. "there is no war going on." hearst response "you furnish the , pictures, i will furnish the war." fast forward into the first world war, there were fabricated accounts from the british, alleging that germans were tossing babies on the bayonet and various other atrocity stories that were circulat

kenneth osgood talks about the programs that the u.s. operations, which sought funds of from politicians, corporations and american citizens. was 25 minute interview recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago.

kenneth osgood talks about the programs u.s. erations, which sought support from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25 minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. >> kenneth, i want to talk about your book, but let me begin with a topic we hear so much about especially from our current president, fake news. what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. it quite literally refers to manufactured information, or fabricated information, propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back to 1898, an episode that comes to mind is on tve

kenneth osgood talks about the programs that the u.s. operations, which sought funds of from politicians, corporations and american citizens. was 25 minute interview recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. i want to talk about your book in a moment, but let's begin with the topic that we hear so much about, fake news. what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. untruths propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back to 1898 an episode , that comes to mind is on the eve of the spanish-american war, william randolph hearst, the powerful media magnate of his day sent a photographer down to , document the war. reporter cables to hearst, there is no war going on, hearst says you furnish the pictures, i will furnish the war. there were fake fabricated accounts distributed by british propaganda to the united states, alleging germans were tossing babies on the bayonets and other various atrocity stories. they would highlight the wickedness of the germans.

steve: one last question, kenneth osgood. what are the lessons? what can we take away from history? how can we apply that to 2019? kenneth: it's a question i struggle with. i want history to provide me with clear, helpful guidance and it often doesn't. i think some of the lessons include that we have encountered attempts at misinformation and disinformation before, and we have organized to oppose those, and i think we can do so again with appropriate leadership in -- leadership. the lessons of history also direct us to be attentive to the ways in which, in fact, the ease in which democratic institutions or insisting political institutions can be swept away, eroded from within. they identify the power of propaganda of the kind we are seeing and suggest that we, as american citizens need to be attentive to it. we need to be alert to it, we need to develop tools to analyze information. understand what is credible and not credible, and we need to hold our leaders to account when they disseminate falsehoods. steve: if our viewers google your name and ny times, your essay from october 2017

kenneth osgood talks about the program's u.s. operations, which saw funds and support from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25-minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. steve: kenneth, i want to talk about your book and a moment, but we hear a lot, especially from our current president, "fake news." what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. untruths propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back

kenneth osgood talks about the program's u.s.perations, which salt -- sought funds and support from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25-minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. steve: kenneth, i want to talk about your book and a moment, government began with the topic we hear so much about especially , from our current president, "fake news." what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. that is quite literally referring to manufactured information or fabricated information. untruths propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back to 1898, an episode that comes to mind is on the eve of the spanish-american war, william randolph hearst, the powerful media magnet of his day, sent a photographer down to cuba to document the war and

kenneth osgood, author of "total cold war," talks about the programs of the u.s.s, which sought funds of from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25 minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. steve: i want to talk about your book in a moment, but let's begin with the topic that we hear so much about, fake news. what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. it quite literally refers to manufacture information or fabricated information, untruths, propagated through the media.

kenneth osgood talks about the programs of the u.s.s, which sought funds from politicians, corporations and american citizens. this 25 minute interview was recorded at the american historical association's annual meeting in chicago. steve: i want to talk about your book in a moment, but let's begin with the topic that we hear so much about, fake news. what is it? kenneth: fake news is a new term for an old phenomenon. untruths propagated through the media. this is as old as the media itself. going back to 1898, an episode that comes to mind is on the eve