. >> i am delighted to be welcoming kenneth rosen back to talk

. >> i am delighted to be welcoming kenneth rosen back to talk about his latest release trouble. last year in the virtual space for bulletproof vest, which was his first published novel art not a novel excuse me, my bad. his first book and we're really delighted to have them back. kenneth is a senior editor and correspondent at newsweek, based in italy preset contribute writer wired and journalist and resident at the washington institute. his other two nonfiction books and executive in residence of the geneva center for security policy. and a 2021 alicia patterson fell appeared previously spent six years on staff of the "new york times". were going to speak for ten or 15 minutes it will open up your question submitted to the chat and the q&a. and now we will ask kenneth to come back up on screen and we're going to dive in. >> hi anastasia. >> hello how are you? >> guest: i'm really well. hearing my bio annoying with the subject of the book is, it really shows like how long it takes to publish a book. [laughter] just like that change of topic of subject matter. >> host: yes, absol