what do you both think of kenneth starr now in retrospect? the other thing i want to ask you is when you were strategizing, this is what we were asking ourselves, talking about campaigns when you are both involved how did you protect the confidence? did it ever get broken? did you by accident conveyed to your team the strategy of the other person? how would you protect that in your conversations if something needed to be done and it is suddenly conveyed to the other side? >> let me say i always liked kenneth starr but i have not thought about him in ten years. at the time of that whole recent unpleasantness, i had my second day being post partner and all i cared about was my husband was out there defending a lie. i said how could you defend this why? he said sugar, if i did some things that stupid with the girls that young i would lie about it too. [laughter] >> that is as far as i wanted to go with that. as for the other larger issue of honor, integrity, when we got married he was 49. i have been doing politics since i was in college and i k

what do you both think of kenneth starr now in retrospect? the other thing i want to ask you is when you were strategizing, this is what we were asking ourselves, talking about campaigns when you are both involved how did you protect the confidence? did it ever get broken? did you by accident conveyed to your team the strategy of the other person? how would you protect that in your conversations if something needed to be done and it is suddenly conveyed to the other side? >> let me say i always liked kenneth starr but i have not thought about him in ten years. at the time of that whole recent unpleasantness, i had my second day being post partner and all i cared about was my husband was out there defending a lie. i said how could you defend this why? he said sugar, if i did some things that stupid with the girls that young i would lie about it too. [laughter] >> that is as far as i wanted to go with that. as for the other larger issue of honor, integrity, when we got married he was 49. i have been doing politics since i was in college and i k

. >> on the day independent council kenneth starr delivered his famous report to congress, establishing in graphic detail how president clinton carried on an affair with monica lewinsky and testified falsely about it, hillary clinton spoke by phone to diane blair, who recounted the talk in her journal. it was a lapse, mrs. clinton said of her his, but to his credit, he tried to break it off, tried to pull away. tried to manage someone who was a narcicisstic loony toon, but it was beyond control. it was gross, inappropriate behavior, but it was consensual, was not a power relationship, and was not sex within any real meaning. >> five years earlier, when republican senator bob packwood of oregon was magging allegations of sexual miscult, she was unsure about the conduct. blair wrote in her diary, hc tired of all those whiny women, and she needs him on health care. these come from blair's papers, quietly unsealed at the university of arkansas in 2010, ten years after her death from lung cancer and published in the washington free beacon. >> this is the real hillary in terms of the way she

the week before this crime happened, okay, kenneth starr released about 4,000 pages of the land thattrip monica lewinsky tate, the transcript. and the following week, the week that the sperm actually happened was a week that the house are representatives to vote for full impeachments of bill clinton. i am not saying that i have found information that there was some conspiracy and washington. let's face it. when a president is in crisis and there's a possibility that he could be impeached and lose his presidency, one thing that he is going to do is shore up all of his key constituencies and present a picture to the public of him as a leader. personally i have problems when a politician, president is making political statements about the case before the police have completed an investigation, suggesting that there is a direct connection between this crime when matthew was still alive and passing a hate crime bill in congress. i will say that i have similar problems, and this is another reflection of the case, but with trade on margin. okay. let the jury, you know, which the facts can m