linda tripp gives those tapes to paula jones' lawyers and kenneth starr's office. e jones case. >> part of the danger for the president lies in what he said under oath to lawyers for paula jones. mr. clinton denied in his deposition having a sexual relationship with lewinsky. >> did the president agree with lewinsky to deny their affair under oath? >> if the president, in fact, encouraged this woman to lie under oath or ask someone else to encourage her, that's a crime. >> it is a different order of magnitude from any of the previous charges that the president's had to put up with for the last several years. >> what the white house is in for is another legal nightmare. >> hey-ho, clinton's got to go. >> this was a howl coming up in the media and from republicans. people were horrified over this. it was overpowering. >> i want you to listen to me. i'm going to say this again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss lewinsky. i never told anybody to lie. not a single time. never. these allegations are false. and i need to go back to work for the american

david: we just had kenneth starr on. looking at the investigations against bill clinton, even republicans admit they made a mistake pursuing that. democrats ended up enjoying the fact that the republicans were so determined to impeach him and he was impeached, but he was ruled innocent by the senate. a lot of people think it helped the democrats long-term because the economy was doing well, the economy right now is doing well. when things are going well in the economy, a president who may be at least partially responsible for that is being thrown barbs by congress americans get upset at that. why upset the apple cart. >> there was a paul that came out that showed the -- normally the economy is the number one issue when it comes to voting but in his last midterm election it was healthcare, immigration and the economy. we have a sort of thing, natural human behavior that when something is going well, that is great. heather: david: there could be fatigue and hostility about going after donald trump away republicans went aft

. >>> kenneth starr led the investigation which led to the impeachment of president clinton, and nowhis comments on fox have gotten the attention of, you guessed it, the president, who treated judge ken starr just stated after two years, there's no evidence or proof of collusion, and further that there is no evidence that there was a campaign financing violation involving the president. thank you, judge. now, ken starr has a book out, and most importantly he joins me now. judge, thanks for being with us. >> i've had a chance to speak with you a lot. it's nice to see you without the bags under my eyes. i know that you have set that you have not seen any evidence of collusion yet. i also know, which maybe the president has missed, you also said there may be a lot you haven't seen. >> absolutely. >> you also said robert mueller is a man of high integrity and you trust him to conduct a fair investigation. >> and i haven't changed my position. i have known robert mueller i have questioned his judgment in terms of some of the people around him, but i know him to be a person of absolute int

now, i sat there, you know, when i was there, when kenneth starr issued his report. i was there at the house committee. i was there with them when he issued the report. there was no, you know, democrats didn't issue a rebuttal. we listened to what kenneth starr, what the report said and listened to it and the articles of impeachment were actually meted out. that is not how it works. so to me, that is very interesting. that smells like, that seems kind of desperate that -- >> it hasn't happened. there is a sign post that it going to happen. >> how can you issue a rebuttal report that you haven't even gotten the report yet? it doesn't make sense. >> even if they do, it wouldn't necessarily go to the part of any conclusion that mueller reaches. they might do this just for public relations. >> right. >> so they can have their report. >> i will tell you, the real curious are the members of the democratic run house ju dishy committee. >> you got it. >> swearing in, january 3. lynn sweet, liz wheel, good to see you both. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, more bomb shells from

. >> judge kenneth starr after sunset, great to see you.at having you meerp appreciate it. >> thank you, john. >> this could be breaking news. the fight over president trump's tax returns. last minute gift ideas in stores and online. like savings of 35% on natural reflections ladies' chenille cardigan sweaters. plus bass pro and cabela's gift cards make the perfect gift! ♪ there's no place likargh!e ♪ i'm trying... ♪ yippiekiyay. ♪ mom. ♪ whetor surprise pizza,aco night, zantac works when you need it. it relieves or prevents heartburn in as little as 30 minutes, and lasts up to 12 hours. zantac. eat your way. treat your way.™ >>> all right. this just in. cnn's dana bash just spoke with the president's tv lawyer rudy giuliani about democratic efforts to go after the president's tax returns. and he just told dana, giuliani did, that the administration is ready for a court fight on it. quoting giuliani, "they have to have a reason for wanting them and i fail to see a reason. they can't just look at them. it has to be linked to some wrongdoing.

he took over for kenneth starr. he said "you know, you don't look at an impeachment situation based on what is indicated. we don't know the whole truth, but what is indicated by medica medical: and paying off mr. -- so on and so forth." what will democrats do? it's a risky business to go after a sitting president. politically. >> politically, believe also had a lot of history. what has been done. at least twice in the last 50 years. it's certainly not a good thing to have to do, but if the mueller investigation shows that there are clear violations of the law, the issues that are now before the courts in the proceeding. if those show clear violations, i think there is no option but for congress to carry out its constitutional responsibility of holding the president accountable. >> harris: will you allow me -- we are about to get some breaking video now of michael cohen arriving home to his new york city apartment. so they will be a time gap between today and march 6th when he has to report to federal prison. he will

we will hear from kenneth starr, who served as an independent counsel on the whitewater and lewinskyestigations. the event starts tomorrow at 2:00 eastern live on c-span. on "q&a."ht nazi party had 20,000 supporters who came to rally at madison square garden. stormtroopers giving a nazi salute next to the swastika next to a picture of george washington. that rally was for george washington's birthday. there was an active fascist movement in the 1920's and 1930's and was associated with the phrase america first. university of london literary professor sarah churchwell looks at the history of the terms america first and the american dream in her book he hold america sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's q&a. 50 years ago, apollo 8 became the first manned spacecraft to successfully orbit the moon. this weekend, american history tv marks the milestone with special features. starting sunday at 9:00 eastern, we are from chicago's museum of science and industry, home of the apollo 8 capsule. at 10:00, on oral histories, the 1999 interview with apollo 8 commander and at 4:30, and oral histories i

epstein assembled a legal dream team that included alan dershowitz and former special prosecutor kenneth starr. the multi-millionaire could have faced life in prison, but with their help, struck a deal. he pleaded guilty to state felony prostitution charges and served a 13-month sentence. epstein was allowed to spend up to 12 hours a day, six days a week at his office. the federal prosecutor who agreed to the lenient sentence in that case: alex acosta, the current u.s. secretary of labor. epstein was known to be politically connected. flight logs obtained by several media organizations indicate that former president bill clinton was on epstein's private jet at least 26 times between 2001 and 2003. epstein supposedly knew president donald trump, who said in a 2002 interview with "new york magazine," that "epstein is a terrific guy" and that "epstein likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side." mr. trump's attorney told fox news, "there was no relationship between jeffrey epstein and donald trump." the now-65-year-old epstein was one of the most successful mo

chuck schumer said it was tawdry but unimpeachable affair and now they will channel their own kenneth starrto go after the president of the united states, deep political trouble if they try to do that. shannon: thank you very much. that would make you the favorite. congressman mark meadows, the chief of staff job is up for grabs when general john kelly leaves. he could be a key figure in negotiations over a fight for funding the border wall. the president meets with democratic leaders tomorrow as a possible government shutdown looms. capital hill's producers here. >> reporter: democratic votes in the house and senate are the linchpin to averting a shutdown. 60 votes required in the senate to become a filibuster and in the next two weeks republicans have only 51 members. the vote is even more jumbled in the house. house republicans defeated legislation twice to fully fund the border wall, wall fight looms, house republicans and the majority for now, vote on their side to pass a bill with border funding or legislation without wall money. that means the press mislead and democrat for help, the

counsel regulations, unlike the independent counsel regulations that were controlling under the kenneth starr investigation, there is no requirement that this report see the light of day. so it really will be up to whoever is supervising bob mueller's investigation to determine what and how much of that report is revealed and certainly if the most recent reporting is accurate, that president trump has been having these secret conversations with matthew whitaker as to what he would like to have done with regards to this investigation, then it seems he is certainly trying to have his hand in what's happening to the report. >> but with all of these variables, i'm most concerned about the timeline. cynthia, do you really think that mueller will finish by february? >> no, i don't think there's any chance he'll finish by february. he may issue some kind of interim report. the reporters from nbc news, ken delaney and -- both of them are -- i can't -- i can't remember who the second one is right this second, but ken delaney and the other are outstanding. >> tom winter. >> i'm sure that -- >> tom wint

president is being investigated it's been been an outside special counsel, an independent counsel like kenneth starr, like mueller himself. here you have the justice department itself saying that the president committed a crime and as -- you can be sure this was not done casually. this is something where there's multiple levels of review and they whether it's through e-mails, witnesses, testimony, financial records and also common sense. how could anyone not believe donald trump didn't order the money to be paid. >> what is the crime? campaign violation. >> correct. >> there's a fine for that. >> that's true. it's not the worst crime in the federal code. presidents aren't supposed to commit any crimes. >> jennifer, what happens? they believe he committed a felony. what happens to the president? >> that's the big question right. in a normal case if he weren't the president, he should expect to be indicted. the department of justice has opine you cannot indict a sitting president. i think southern district's choices are these, they can try to indict him. they may not get permission from the department

judiciary committee ganim peachment hearings on president bill clinton only after special prosecutor kenneth starred his four-year investigation of the president. bill clinton was then impeached by the house of representatives, but acquitted in a trial in the united states senate by his jury of united states senators with 45 senators voting yes to convict and remove bill clinton from office, and 55 senators voting no on one article of impeachment, and on the second article of impeachment, the vote was 50/50. but during the rampant corruption of the nixon administration, congress did not wait for the special prosecutor. president nixon was the subject of a special prosecutor's investigation at the very same time that he was being investigated by congress, and the house judiciary committee ganim peachment hearings before the special prosecutor completed his investigation. and the house judiciary committee actually voted to approve three articles of impeachment against president nixon while the special prosecutor was still working on the case. and it was that vote by the house judiciary committee tha

plus, reaction from kenneth starr. don't go away. ♪ rise from ruin.all family business becomes a beacon of hope. in seattle, people with disabilities create success and shatter barriers. day in, day out, people prove that when we work as one, we have the power to create better futures for us all. it's proven quality sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999... intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. and the best gift of all? a silent night. how smart is that? smarter sleep. to help you shed those sugar cookies, get a running start on the holidays, and take it all in with the patience of a saint. queen sleep number 360 smart beds from $999. plus, it's the last chance for 48-month financing. ends monday. -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use -- 0600. i'd stay close. morning. ♪ get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, "protected by alan and jamie." -right? -should it? when you

you took over the kenneth starr case and wrapped it up. so you see the beginning of the ends of things. i want to get an idea from you -- is this the ending or is this just the beginning for general flynn? >> i think there was just a simply a pause today. that doesn't mean that things weren't accomplished today. the judge, first, had to determine -- you and i raised this in our prior interview on fox about the question of whether or not to, really, there was cause to withdraw a guilty plea. the judge wanted to be sure before he proceeded forward to sentence that the defendant knew that making statements to the fbi was unlawful. because there is some suggestion by virtue of the fact that he wasn't advice. we now know, intentionally so, by the fbi. making a false image of the fbi was a crime. that was not done. one of the reasons you do that, all prosecutors and agents generally speaking provide that advice, because that means it's far easier to prove that the defendant, in fact, did know that lying to the faa is a crime. there is no legal r

mother who had custody of the child and do according to her lawyer just happened to have been kenneth starr was giving her daughter a religious bringing and want her to say the pledge but under god in it. god was safe in the pledge after the court finished. god of course this does not pledge. but that atheist and i was not silent. in september 2005 he brought a new case on behalf of himself and three other unnamed parents and their children in the nearby rio linda school district to the same californian district court he had tried in 2000. the district court judge in january 2006 ruled again holding that the pledge under god violated the first amendment. he too stated carrying out his ruling, pending appeals by the school board to the ninth circuit. the case was indeed appealed to the ninth circuit court of appeals in arguments were heard in december 2007. it took over two years until march 2010 for the ninth circuit panel to decide the case. exactly 10 years after he bought his first ill-fated suit on behalf of his daughter, the ninth circuit court panel finally definitively resolved illeg

. >> tomorrow, a discussion on the role of special counsel, we will have rathers from kenneth starr, former independent counsel investigating the white whaert and lewinsky situations during the clinton administration. live at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >>> 50 years ago, apollo 8 became the first manned spacecraft to successfully orbit the moon. this weekend, american history tv marks the milestone with special features. starting sunday at 9:00 a.m. eastern. we're live from chicago's museum of science and industry, home of the apollo 8 capsule with author robert kersen taking your phone calls. at 10:00, the oral histories with the 1999 interview with the frank boreman, apollo 9 commander and at 4:30 eastern, with the module pilot jim lovell. watch the 50th anniversary of apollo, this weekend, on american history tv. on c-span 3. sunday night on q&a. >> this american nazi party had 20,000 supporters who came to rally at madison square garden. and as that footage shows in the middle of new york, storm troopers giving the nazi salute with the swastika next to a picture of george washin

gillian: the deputy assistant for policy and former senior counsel to the kenneth starr investigation, paul, thanks so much. you are the perfect guest for us to have object set this weekend, so thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. gillian: so the first question here, we keep hearing this week this drum beat of mueller's coming to a close, mueller is bringing this investigation to the finish line, due to the sentencing, and the memos this week. do you share that few of the tea leaves? >> i think it's an inference, but premature. i think mr. mueller is seeking the testimony of roger stone and corsi and those may open up avenues between russia and trump campaign. i think it's fair to say he's closer to the end than the beginning, but-- >> not fair to hold you to the spot. but if you had to bet, weeks out omonths out? >> middle of next year. that's a guess. gillian: what about, so it seems with the latest rulings, the latest sentencing memos coming out this week, judges are going kind of all in in terms of how seriously they're treating the crimes. now, with michael cohen gettin

ellis, and what epstein did shrewdly was hire a bunch of attorneys with ties to that law firm, kenneth starrople who were pretty powerful, shrewd lawyers, who had a connection to the bush administration who was in office at the time this deal happened. so these lawyers really put a lot of pressure on acosta, who was a republican at the time, still is, and, you know, it became increasingly clear that he had to make a tough decision whether he was going to go with, you know, prosecuting epstein despite all this pressure, or cutting a deal, which is eventually what he did. >> so, julie, first of all, congratulations on this report, and it's one of the reasons newspapers have to remain in existence and getting stronger every day due partly to work you have given us. from your thumbnail description of what just happened between local authorities and palm beach county and even in miami, is it the case that basically money talked here, that epstein went out and hired a bunch of really highly skilled lawyers from a big, powerful law firm, and the local authorities at the local level in confronting w

the honorable kenneth w starr.ed as the united states circuit judge for the district of columbia circuit as counselor chief of staff to william francis smith. law clerk to both warren burger and david dyer. he was appointed to serve as independent counsel for five investigations, including 1999,ater from 1994 to former dean of the pepperdine law school. author of a recently published book, a memoir of the clinton investigation. our moderator who i will shortly turn this over to his greta van legalen, widely known specialist and television anchor. she's currently a contributor to "voice of america." you may have noticed that most recently, she conducted a newsworthy interview with president trump at the g20 summit and when is ours. welcome. [applause] >> thank you for coming today or watching via livestream. it's exciting to be here. i was watching the video showing the freedom forum in the united states. we are so lucky to have freedom of the press here in the united states. what a difference it makes. was like to

the honorable kenneth w starr, who served as the united states circuit judge for the district of columbiacuit, to then u.s. attorney general william s smith and law clerk to fifth circuit judge david dwyer. he was appointed the independent counsel for five investigation, including what was popularly known as whitewater from 1994 to 1999, and the author of a recently published book, contempt, a memoir of the clinton investigation. our moderator, who i will shortly turn this over to, is a -- greta van susteren a widely known legal expert and television anchor for cnn, fox, nbc news a former civil defense , and critical trial lawyer. you may have noticed that most recently, she conducted a newsworthy interview with president trump at the g20 summit in buenos aires. so welcome. >> thank you. [applause] thanks for coming today or watching via the livestream. it is exciting to be here. watching the video showing the freedom in the united states as i travel the world and we are so lucky to have freedom of the press here in the united states, and boy what a difference it makes. i always like to t

the honorable kenneth w starr.istrict ofr the columbia circuit, law clerk for -- warrenrger and berger. he was the former president chancellor at baylor university and the author of a recently published book, contempt: a memoir of the clinton investigation. our moderator, who i will turn this over to, is a widely known legal expert and television anchor for cnn, fox, nbc news, a former criminal defense and civil trial lawyer. she is currently a contributor to voice of america with a program called plugged in. you may have noticed that most recently she conducted a newsworthy interview with president trump in buenos aires. welcome. [applause] today oryou for coming watching on livestream. it is exciting to be here. watching that video showing the freedom forum, i traveled the world, we are so lucky to have freedom of the press here. what a difference it makes. i always like to tip my hat to that part of the constitution. let's talk about special prosecutors, independent counsel investigations. let me lay some histor