the independent counsel kenneth starr, that was a statute that was passed by congress and signed into law by the president in 1978. it was renewed several times until it expired in 1999. let me ask again. will the speaker provide a fair process, the same used for president nixon and president clinton in this impeachment? her actions indicate she will not. therefore, this inquiry must be suspended. it should be suspended for what is prevented from happening, doing the people's work including funding our troops. as many of you know, the national defense authorization bill is languishing. the department of defense funding is languishing. together these critical bills include troop pay raises, disaster coverage for military bases and increased medical funding for nih. democrats are prioritizing impeachment over our own troops. prioritizing impeachment over transformational trade deal and they are prioritizing impeachment over bipartisan legislation to reduce prescription drug costs. the speakers insist the democrat majority can impeach and legislate at the same time. the records show that

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that would be kenneth starr. i don't see the mention of a felony. >> there are no impeachable offenses. because attention is clear you need bribery, treason, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. the most interesting issue, the one that jay has brilliantly litigated is whether a state can investigate and prosecute a sitting president. i think the second circuit has given us a clue as how it might decide that issue. it said it was a very, very important issue. the constitution itself says that a president who has been impeached and removed can then be tried for a crime, but it strongly implies that he could not be tried for a crime and that would mean a state crime or a federal crime. let's remember at the time of the constitution, a vast majority of crimes were state crimes. so i think in the end, a president can't be investigated or charged with a state or federal crime while he is sitting in that i do not think he could be impeached for the conduct that's been alleged in this case. >> sean: this is your party.

bill clinton had 11 felonies in the kenneth starr report, nothing here. we will see.an tell you this with confidence, i can tell you how this is going

that investigation was done by archibald cox and it was done in the clinton case by kenneth starr and all of those materials were turned over and we are doing the front line factual investigation and all they're trying to do is throw pizza parties and blockade the process. this case along with several others makes clear that we're doing precisely what we should be doing in order to pursue the impeachment of the president for high crimes and misdemeanors and they're rather than trying to shut it down. there are dozens of republicans who were trying to be in that room trying to ask questions when these guys barged in and had their fake, civil disobedience which compromised national security likely. >> so let me ask you about john bolton and i know you all are having saturday depositions and it seems certainly from the schedule it's moving quickly and it's accelerating. we know they'veec spoken with commits about the deposition. can you update us on when this might happen? will he testify? >> i'm sorry, erin. i cannot update you on that, but i wanted to finish answering your question abo

kinds of calls for things to be treated differently than it was when democrats were fighting the kenneth starreport. there are rules the change over time as people deal with their own party in power and trying to finagle that. let me put this poll up so people can see. democrats, 85% in favor of impeachment, independents 39%, republicans 13%. another reason republicans want this vote is they want those democrat in trump districts to go to the floor and vote yes or no on this. >> one of the reasons nancy pelosi has not held that vote is she wouldn't even get all of her own caucus. she has the numbers to do it, there are ten hold outs. democrats themselves are not willing to go down this path of opening and impeachment inquiry. that would be an embarrassment. there is an argument to be made that one of the reasons you see these numbers happening is we only had a half-baked impeachment inquiry, only seeing portions of transcripts, snippets of news. a lot of the media has made their own judgment on it and i think there's an argument to be made that nancy pelosi is fearful to let it all come out an

by the time the clinton case got to the senate, for example, we had the kenneth starr report and allf public disclosures. they did not have a trial in the senate. they had basically closing arguments. that was different from the johnson case 100 some years before when they had a full trial with testimonials and objections. i think the clinton model is much more like what you would see, because i think it is likely any facts, if there is a proceeding, will be known. it is the president. the president's actions tend to be known. what is testified to by the people close to him will be known. the house, if they want to go forward are going to reveal that stuff. takes a little while for people to get used to the notion that those standard criteria for judicial proceedings, which i as a lawyer would have demanded on behalf of my client during impeachment trial, do not necessarily apply. david: to follow on that port, even more in the richard nixon case, when it took more time to get the tapes, in this case president trump volunteered the rough transcript of the discussion he had with the p

joining us now to help process all this issue with process, former deputy attorney general and kenneth starre you with us. we are getting reports from inside a private lunch with the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell talking with the g.o.p. senators. you can talk about places you disagree with the president on issues, but let's not do that on process. "a republican senator who spoke on condition of an amenity said he gave his colleagues leeway to express opposition to various actions such as pulling u.s. troops out of northern syria, but urged him to stick together on process." judge, what you make of the argument that house republicans were trying to make up the process by walking in the hearing? >> we had an active civil disobedience and i think it may be the first time and house history, certainly in a very long time. i think we had a constitutional train wreck coming and it all could be avoided. it still to be avoided if we would follow the right order of proceedings and that is let's have an open hearing, but first of all let's have a vote on the house of representatives floor. it'

come out, calls for things to be treated differently than it was when democrats were fighting the kenneth starreport. there are rules that change over time which people, as you said, dealing with their own party in power trying to finagle that. now, kim, of course, let me set this poll up so people can see. democrats, the surprising 87% of them are in favor of impeachment, but independents 37% and republicans 13%. another reason republicans want is vote because they want democrats in trump district to have to go to the floor and either vote yes or no on this. >> one of the reasons nancy pelosi has not held his boat yet is because she wouldn't even get the majority -- she wouldn't get all of her own caucus. she's got the numbers to do it but there are close to ten holdouts. democrats themselves that aren't willing to go down this path. that would be an embarrassment. there is some argument to be made that one of the reasons you see any of these numbers happening is because we've only had a half-baked impeachment inquiry as it were, where we've only seen portions of transcripts that americans hav

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the benefit of specials appointed as with kenneth starr in the nixon impeachment or archibald cox in the nixon impeachment, we don't have that here. mueller was very limited and circumsubscribed in time and scope to just the 2016 election. remember that started as a counterintelligence investigation, but there's nothing about ukraine there. so we're doing all of that factual assembly, we're starting it right now. this is beginning of it, and we really don't have time for all of the kind of theatrics when we were doing the mueller investigation. we have to get right down to business so we're being very sober, very methodical and very serious about it. we know that our colleagues would like to recreate the kind of circus atmosphere you saw with the lewandowski hearing, which was probably the lowest moment in the whole impeachment process that was taking place in the judiciary committee. but this is solemn, it's behind closed doors. the republicans have tried to crash it. matt gates showed up and said he wanted to be there, he delayed he can't by 45 minutes or an hour. we expect future

you let's us stay with the story and speak to paul rosensweig he's a former senior counselor to kenneth starr who headed the investigation that led to president clinton's impeachment he's currently a senior fellow of national security in cyber security at the or st institute he is joining us from washington as well thanks very much for being with us on the al-jazeera news hour what do you think the implications are for the white house and the president and those around him now that they've blocked sunglass testimony. well i think that the implications are quite clear that the president has decided to stonewall the investigation in every way possible and your reporters are absolutely correct that the only really effective response that congress has at this point is to collect all of the instances of obstruction of the investigation into another or article or series of articles of impeachment that was after all one of the articles of impeachment that was voted out by the judiciary committee against richard nixon and his unwillingness to provide information to congress was itself considered an i

research. , sam of the other figures from the watergate prosecution toomes the ethic counseled kenneth starr who is pursuing president clinton. members of congress who had served in 1974 were still there in 1998 and 1999. this is not a distant memory for them. the same -- this is a really been -- living event in the country. how do they treat the allegations against bill clinton? they tossed out the johnson precedent. it was so long ago and so different and was so political that they decided it was not that useful to them and trying to figure out a roadmap. nixon was different. nixon was the model for what they did. majority of the house decided they would pursue articles of impeachment, they literally took the nixons ones and cut in place -- cut and pasted language. his name is the password for the computer when they were drafting the impeachment of 1998. they were very consciously modeling what they were doing on nixon. the problem is they are trying to fit a square pay into a circular hole, or vice versa. they are trying to fit a different set of facts into what made watergate unique. in

process, saying it's fair, and concerns raised by the white house -- former white house counsel kenneth starrs here to weigh in. i've got lots of questions for m. ♪ >> i will answer it one time. these rules are fairer than anything that has gone before, in terms of an impeachment proceeding. i am not here to answer whether republicans say. it isn't anything personal with the president. it isn't about politics. ♪ ho dinner's almost ready. but one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with our renters insurance. yeah, switching and saving was really easy! drink it all up. good! could have used a little salt. visit geico.com and see how easy saving on renters insurance can be. red lobster's endless shrimp is back for just fifteen ninety nine. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp... ...savory grilled teriyaki shrimp,... ...classic shrimp scampi and more! red lobster's endless shrimp is fifteen ninety nine. hurry in. pi've had nineteen surgeries.l i'm 100% permanently disabled from the military and after i went in to aspen dental it was

comment that in the case of richard nixon, we had a special prosecutor and in clinton's case we had kenneth starrss is doing their own investigation and they have had to investigate behind closed doors to get the testimony and the facts in this case against trump. host: if some of those people who testified behind closed doors ended up in public testimony, shouldn't that have been done in the first place? caller: they needed to do the behind closed doors to get the facts. i hope they are and i am glad to impeach him. i about throw up every time i hear a republican say he got 63 million votes. hillary clinton got 66 million votes and she is not sitting in the white house. the story about the president spending on ads, mr. trump is outspending democrats on facebook, tripling his weekly buy as soon as the impeachment was announced and has spent four point $5 billion on impeachment ads, dwarfing tom steyer flooding airwaves to raise his profile. sean is in baltimore, maryland, independent line. what do you think about this latest move? caller: i don't have a problem with it. let me talk about this pr

[video clip] >> and then there is a third story involving kenneth starr. "starr adds to evidence."xes of evidence to the impeachment committee yesterday to buttress his filings from september. of the papers have major headlines on these three stories. all of them broke up. late in the day. friday. we want to hear any comments you have. let's look at "the washington ."st they have a headline saying that president clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with paul a jones yesterday. they called this sexual harassment lawsuit as something that generated the worst clintonl crisis of the career. peter baker writes that after 4.5 years of scorched earth clinton [noe, audio] sudden end to the case with [no audio] , a "washingtony journal" guest host during the clinton impeachment. you can find more from him if you go to our website, c-span.org. getting his start here on c-span. janet, hello. these candidates is the most electable? caller: pete buttigieg, in my book. host: tell us why. caller: i'm 63 years old, he's very pragmatic. he has a calm demeanor. his policies are laid out step-b

kenneth mckenzie, u.s. marine corp. how did the u.s. military central command briefing on the raid that wound up killing the isis leader abu backeral bad daddy and we learned from barbara starr monitoring the briefing. you've been listening as all of us have and he was pretty specific on the details. >> reporter: he was, wolf and showed a number of videos which we'll bring to you shortly, detailing exactly how all of this unfolded and it started as u.s. commandos began to approach the compound by helicopter they came under fire from the ground. they think this was other militant forces if the region, not necessarily that baghdadi had any guard force there. and so they came under fire. they quickly returned fire. and basically killed those other militants on the ground. they think, actually, that baghdadi might have been there for some time and he felt this was an area he could hideout in and be safe from the u.s. anti-isis campaign even though this is an area that basically al qaeda operates in. so he took some risk. but he thought it was the best way for him to stay safe. they had been watching this compound and they basically came to the conclusion last friday, according t