when it came to kenneth witty. because he always had to act the clown, i was dreading the sit-down interview. i thought, he's going to give me a hard time throughout the whole thing. i'm never going to get a serious answer. we were setting up and he was still playing the clown and joking around with everybody as we got everything prepared. but when we both finally sat down and it was one-on-one, i was stunned. he became this very calm, somber, self-reflecting person who was very honest. >> roughly, i've spent over half of my adult life locked up. i was running the streets. i learned to pickpocket and i learned how to steal from stores i didn't have time to actually sit here and say, i'm going to be a doctor when i grow up or anything. i want to be a astronaut. i never was able to think about anything like that. >> he said in his early teens he joined one of tulsa's street gangs. >> i was 12 1/2, almost 13 and i learned how to sell drugs. learned how to seriously provide for myself. i had girls. guns, clothes. i'm n