. >> rupaul: with kenny rogers. >> yay, thank you for bringing him up, i love kenny rogers. >> rupaul rogers. >> you've got to know when to fold them. >> rupaul: and when to hold them. >> that's right. >> rupaul: do you have a favorite memory of working with kenny rogers? >> he got my father and i in a helicopter to go to to -- what's that town? >> rupaul: rome, georgia? >> no, new jersey. >> rupaul: huh. >> where all the concerts are. >> rupaul: right, meadowlands? >> something like that. anyway, so my father was mortified. he's like, i'm not going to get in a helicopter. he's been a cab driver. he's like, "we'll take the train, whatever you need." he's like, "no, you don't understand, if i don't spend the money, i can't keep it." >> rupaul: i love that. >> "i have to fly people in." >> rupaul: he was performing at this concert? >> uh-huh. he gave me a guitar, was trying to get me to play muse glick i thought "six pack" was filmed in georgia. >> he came through new york and his largess d'espirit. the name of his production company was lion's share. back in the day, it was $5 to go to

>> absolutely, thank you for having me and i think the president must've listened to kenny rogers whend you gotta know when to hold 'em, you gotta know when to fold them. i think he recognized it was time to fold them and i admire him for that it took a lot of courage. a hard decision in a right decision. jon: he said right up to the time that he quit the race that he wasn't going to quit the r race. i taken for his word i think he recognized that he was convinced that the polls were demonstrating in the feelings of the country if you will in the electorate were indicative that he might be an albatross around the neck of the candidates down ballot and i think that made him come to the realization that he did not want that to be his legacy, in fear of that in protecting his amazing decades of service to our nation i think you made the right choice. jon: you say that you think he's at peace with his decision. how are the history books going to remember the one term president? >> honestly there are a lot of people that don't agree with him on a legislative or political policy reasons but