host: kenny walker's through the process you went through in deciding not to take a third term as governor? guest: it is simple. we do not have term limits in this state. but we do have good sense and common judgment. the judgment is that you do not over-state your turn. it is time to give someone else a chance. the record under my term is very good. we have kept a lid on taxes and spending and try to bring fiscal discipline to the state. we have reformed their schools. we moved it to performance pay. we've done new energy policy. fattah fattait was a great recom retrospectives. host: if you were to seek the presidency in 2012 what questions would you ask yourself? how determine whether you would run or not? guest: i do not know what the future holds for me and have not gone through an exercise that would determine whether i would consider running for president then. the country is going through great change on all fronts. it is a challenge for republicans of any sort. as you look ford, how do we take our principles -- a how do apply them to the emerging issues of our time as opposed to 60