we'll speak to a former detective from the kenosha police department about all this, next. >>> developingrs launching a civil rights probe into the police shooting of jacob blake in kenosha, wisconsin. police shot blake seven times in his back as his young children watched in the car. but why? joining us now is russell beckman, he worked in the kenosha police department. and he was one of the driving forces behind a law that now mandates police shootings must be investigated by outside agencies. mr. beckman, great to have you here. it will be great to have your insider explanation of everything that happened in kenosha. let's start with the shooting of jacob blake. we have not gotten any information from the kenosha police department about why this happened. is that an offshoot of the law that you helped have passed whereby they no longer investigate themselves and exonerate themselves, it's an outside agency but we still don't know why the police still did this. >> well, you may not know for actually quite a while. it's important that there be a thorough, comprehensive, objective and tra

. >> i'd like to introduce the kenosha police department chief. >> good afternoon. you'll notice there is a theme here in that there is concern for the public, for those that have been injured by the kenosha police department, those injured by civilians, and the injuries inflicted upon the community itself by arsonists, molotov cocktails, looting, all of the violence that goes on. i want to be very clear with that. everybody that stands before you is very committed to bringing a peaceful resolution to the issue at hand. we understand there are underlying issues that are driving this. we're not going to fix them overnight but the commitment is here from the leaders here to do something about it. with that there is a clear understanding that kenosha is full of good people. this is not a community of violent people. the residents are sad, scared, confused but not violent. peaceful protests are welcome and as a way and always a way for the american public to speak their mind. we support that. i support that as an individual. we cannot support violence. when the line cros

the kenosha police department does not have body cameras and the officers we re body cameras and the ing body cameras. the officer, police officer rusten sheskey has been with the kenosha police department for seven years. mr blake admitted he had a knife in his possession and dci agents, the division of criminal investigation, recovered a knife from the driver ‘s side floorboard of mr blake's vehicle. a search of the vehicle. a search of the vehicle located no additional weapons. law enforcement immediately provided medical aid to mr blake and flight for life transported him to hospital in milwaukee. he remains at the hospital. the division of criminal investigation at the wisconsin department ofjustice is leading this investigation assisted by the fbi, wisconsin state patrol and the kenosha cou nty state patrol and the kenosha county sheriff ‘s office. law enforcement officers are fully cooperating during the investigation and the involved officers have been placed on administrative leave. it is day three of the republican national convention. let's get more from washington dc. you

are -- who are involved directly, who fired the shot, the particular police officers -- a kenosha police department police officer. so the department investigating is through the department of justice here in wisconsin. so that is an agency with no direct connection with the kenosha police department and they are conducting that investigation in full. when they complete that investigation, it's turned over, again, by statute, by law, to the local district attorney's office. and that will be our office. and we have, by law, a very narrow task in the enormity of the big issues i talked about. we are asked to review that independently garnered evidence, and we are asked are there any crimes that a police officer has committed that can be proven to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt? so i need to let you know now, and the community know, that is the only question that the kenosha district attorney's office will answer. all of the bigger issues that are so important will not be issues that will be absolute, that will not be definitively decided by kenosha's district attorney's office. we will only decide

the kenosha police department does not have body cameras, and therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras. the shooting officer, kenosha police officer rusten shefski has been a police officer with the police department for seven year. during the investigation following the initial incident, mr. blake admitted he had a knife in his possession. dci agents, division of criminal investigation, recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard of mr. blake's vehicle. a search of the vehicle located no additional weapons. law enforcement immediately provided medical aid to mr. blake, and flight for life transported him to the hospital in milwaukee. mr. blake remains at the hospital. the division of criminal investigation at the wisconsin department of justice is leading this investigation, and it's being assisted by the federal bureau of investigation, the wisconsin state patrol and the kenosha county sheriff's office. all law enforcements officers are fully cooperating during the investigation and the involved officers have been placed on administrative leave. as i said, this i

you should ask for transparency from the kenosha police department. you should ask for justice for jacob blake. you should ask for people who take to the streets, do not tell them to stay home, but take to the streets to do so peacefully. and you should ask those who have come from out of town to spark violence to go back home. we have to do this in memory of jacob blake. and jacob blake's family has told us what they want from him while he's recovering in the hospital. he wants peaceful demonstrations. let's do that, let's raise our voices and be extremely loud, but let's remember to be peaceful while we're claiming and chanting for the kenosha police department to be just, to be transparent, and to be honest. >> charles ramsey, bakari sellers, thank you both very much. >>> so president trump using the power of the presidency to try to win re-election. we'll break down the key moments from last night's republican national convention. next. from prom dresses... ...to soccer practices... ...and new adventures. you hope the more you give the less they'l

what kind of confidence do you have in the kenosha police department given what happened on sunday?, i'll start with this. shooting anybody in the back no matter if you are a police officer or private citizen or military, shooting somebody in the back is hard to justify. but at the same time there's a lot of unknowns. i don't think the community relations between kenosha police department and the community it serves were as tense as they are around the country where we see in other, bigger cities. what i am confident in is that the wisconsin department of justice and their division of criminal investigations will look at this from every side. they'll talk to everybody who was there when this happened. they're going to give that recommendation to the da. from there, it is on the da's shoulders. he has to decide whether he charges this officer and if he can prove in a court that this person is -- this officer is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of violating a state crime if that is what the findings are. but the message that needs to get put across to all these people protesting and,

i know the investigation was handed from the kenosha police department over to state authorities but is that normal not to release more information? >> well, auoftentimes the publi doesn't know a lot of information done behind the scenes through an investigative body and outsourced to the greater investigation body outside the area. why? because they have a statute in wisconsin that essentially says they do not want the fox to guard the hen house, to have police officers to investigate their own police officers. we want to have an air of credibility. but you see when you talk about this circumstances, a high profile incident, you want to have as much information as possible because misinformation can lead to a disturbance in the community. misinformation can lead to not only a lack of credibility but believability. it can exacerbate existing problems and want to be as trance pare transparent as possible but if you have a police unit that doesn't provide the information as to why he may be shackled in the hospital bed but paralyzed presently from the waist down, people look at this an

where is the kenosha police department in the tone of investigation of what happened to mr. fwlak? >> the kenosha police department is not investigating the event. the state is taking on that investigation. where that is, i'm not privy to that information. >> what's it like to about leader in the community? you've watched it play out, sadly, in other american cities. a black man shot by a police. we have every trite get to the bottom of it but legitimate anger in the streets and escalation into more sadness. what is it like to be in a community, i assume ran into you a month ago you would not expect this to play out in kenosha? i'm not -- i don't know if i wouldn't be expecting it. i wouldn't be surprised. i represent one of the second -- the second most diverse district in my county, and it's been talked about. people have talked about what needs to be changed, changes that need to happen in the community and we've failed as elected leaders to make those changes for people in our community. people are scared right now. people are leaving kenosha. residents are leaving kenosha not o

kenosha police department were put in the budget. they were given the money to buy body cam in 2017 but they decided not to spend the money on body cams. so, as we understand it, not one of the officers involved in the shooting of jacob blake was wearing a body camera. that will clearly leave a lot of gaps in this story for some time. waiting to hear details from the police chief. right now there are so many questions about how this all unfolded. this community desperately wants answers. melissa? >> melissa: yeah. without question. they have the right to them. jonathan hunt, thank you for that. this is "outnumbered." i'm melissa francis. here today is harris faulkner, town hall editor and fox news contributor katie pavlich. "fox news @ night" anchor shannon bream. joining us today the former white house press secretary for george w. bush and fox news contributor ari fleischer. ari, let me start with you. the fact we don't have the body cam footage is going to make this so much more difficult. what do we do from here? >> ari: we hesit

>>violence to property violence to people absolutely unacceptable to kenosha police department officers remain on administrative leave as the state's department of justice investigates the shooting according to blake's family. he's now paralyzed from the waist down. >>blake's family attorney ernie insists he did not have a weapon. wisconsin's governor declared a state of emergency and has called in hundreds of members of the national guard. tacoma community shaking with anger, 7 o'clock the curfew will allow us. >>to disperse, whoever's gathered maybe will be no one and i hope that's true. but this person is over gathered in daylight so help us to be able to see better whitney wild kron 4 news. >>president trump addressed the protests on twitter saying quote we will not stand for looting arson violence and lawlessness on american streets. my team just got off the phone with governor evers who agreed to accept federal assistance. why wisconsin's governor did confirm that the state's national guard will be present to try to keep people safe while protecting critical buildings. the governo

>>violence to property violence to people absolutely unacceptable to kenosha police department officers remain on administrative leave as the state's department of justice investigates the shooting according to blake's family. he's now paralyzed from the waist down. >>blake's family attorney ernie insists he did not have a weapon. wisconsin's governor declared a state of emergency and has called in hundreds of members of the national guard. tacoma community shaking with anger, 7 o'clock the curfew will allow us. >>to disperse, whoever's gathered maybe will be no one and i hope that's true. but this person is over gathered in daylight so help us to be able to see better whitney wild kron 4 news. >>president donald trump says he's going to send federal troops to kenosha wisconsin after protests turned deadly last night. the president tweeted earlier today that the governor of wisconsin has accepted his offer to send federal assistance. the gunfire erupted just before midnight last night during the 3rd straight night of unrest in kenosha over the police shooting of jacob blake. at least 60

several yards away, a fourth kenosha police officer ran up, pulled his weapon, placed it against bell's head and pulled the trigger, killing him. the kenosha police department conducted its own review of the incident, and within two days completely exonerated the officers. bell's father, michael bell, sr., commimissioned an independt inquiry that found the police account of the incident to be "forensically impossible," suggesting a cover-up. the city settled a civil rights lawsuit with the bells for $1.75 million, most of which was then spent on a campaign to change wisconsin's law governing how police-involved shootings are investigated. after a decade, i in 2014, , thr campaign s succeeded, and thenen-governor scott wawalker signed the b bill into law makig wisconsin the first state to require that outside investigatators conduct ininvestigations into police shootings. that's where the jacob blake investigation is now, under the supervision of the wisconsin department of justice with involvement of the fbi, wisconsin state patrol, and kenosha county sheriff's office. for more, we go to kenosha where we're joined by michael bell's father, michael bell, sr.

blake's back seven times. >> the shooting officer, kenosha police officer rusten sheskey, has been a law enforcement officer with the kenosha police department for seven years. >> reporter: authorities also revealing officers were called to the scene sunday when a woman said her boyfriend, quote, was present and was not supposed to be on the premises adding when they tried to arrest blake, a taser was not successful. >> mr. blake walked around his vehicle, opened the driver's side door and leaned forward. while holding on to mr. blake's shirt, officer rusten sheskey fired his service weapon seven times. officer sheskey fired the weapon into mr. blake's back. no other officer fired their weapon. >> reporter: according to investigators, blake told officers he had a knife, which authorities say they later found on the floor of his suv. although it's unclear if officer sheskey knew about the knife at the time of the shooting. according to the family's attorney, blake was breaking up a fight when police arrived. this morning, he remains hospitalized and his family says it will be a miracle if he ever walks again. >> the first thing he did when he

the officer who shot blake seven times in the back as rustin shesky, he's been with the kenosha police department for seven years. but also announcing that investigators found a knife in the driver's side floorboard of his car. according to investigators, shesky and two other officers were responding to a domestic incident and unsuccessfully tried to taser and arrest blake. meanwhile, 17-year-old kyle rittenhouse is charged with intentional homicide after two people were shot and killed during protests tuesday night. >> there are orlando magic players heading back into the locker room. >> reporter: and unprecedented aftermath in the sports world, after the nba abruptly canceled games this week, and some major league baseball and soccer teams followed suit. >> they're using that voice to be heard, and now they're using their lack of playing to be heard even louder. >> reporter: professional athletes using their actions to call for change. wendy woolfolk, nbc news >>> president trump didn't go far to accept the republican nomination in an unprecedented move, he delivered his acceptance speech on th

who fired those seven shots now identified as rusten sheskey, a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department. authorities also say police found a knife on the floor of blake's s.u.v. ( gunfire ) the incident fueling frustrations over systemic racism as the aftermath of tuesday's shooting gets a closer look. >> he just shot them! hey, dude right here just shot them! >> reporter: alleged gunman kyle rittenhouse walking away, gun in tow, as people screamed he just shot protesters. one law enforcement officer, seeming to ask rittenhouse if anyone was hurt? >> someone injured straight ahead? >> reporter: two incidents, two videos, with some asking why two different responses. >> if there were the same amount of black men walking around with those a.k.s or a.r.s-- i'm not a gun person-- i think the outcome would be a little bit different. >> reporter: and tonight hannah gittings speaks to cbs news. she's the girlfriend of anthony huber, who was shot and killed while trying to stop the gunman tuesday night. >> who knows what could have happened if he hadn't done that. and it's just not fair that he

who shot jacob blake on sunday is named ruston sheskey he is a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department the wisconsin attorney general revealed that blake said he was or he had a knife at the time of the incident. police were initially responded to a domestic violence call involving blake. he remains in the hospital in milwaukee, his family says he's paralyzed from the waist down. now the other big story this morning. not survivable that's the warning forecast are giving regarding hurricane laura storm surge the category 4 storm made landfall near cameron louisiana last night now camila bernal is on the ground in beaumont texas with the very latest. this is a serious storm. and we urge all those in the affected areas to heed state and local authorities stay safe. >>and know that will be with you every step of the way hurricane hunters flying through the powerful destructive winds of hurricane laura. >>a storm that forecasters are calling an unsurvivable monster one thing that i do want to underscore. >>is the rapid intensification of these storms the gulf coast bracing for laura's wrath

who fired those seven shots now identified as rusten sheskey, a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department. two incidents, two videos, with some asking why two different responses. >> if there were the same amount of black men walking around with those a.k.s or a.r.s-- i'm not a gun person-- i think the outcome would be a little bit different. >> reporter: and tonight, hannah gittings speaks to cbs news. she's the girlfriend of anthony huber, who was shot and killed while trying to stop the gunman tuesday night. >> who knows what could have happened if he hadn't done that? and it's just not fair that he had to die like that. >> reporter: kyle rittenhouse will have an extradition hearing in illinois tomorrow. meanwhile, here in kenosha, you can hear a peaceful rally going on behind me, but the three nights of unrest here left many small businesses damaged or destroyed. the mayor of kenosha told me today that he's turning to state and federal officials to help get those business owners some financial relief. norah. >> o'donnell: mola lenghi. thank you. tonight, four big-league baseball games

not >> reporter: since sunday when an officer shot blake multiple times in the back the kenosha police department has stayed mostly silent. today the chief would not answer questions about the blake shooting or the video. saying it was under investigation. by state authorities. >> i'm not going to address that, it is one snippet of a very large situation. >> eyewitnesses said that your officers asked mr. blake to drop a knife was any weapon recovered at the scene. >> i can't answer questions about the investigation. >> for blake's uncle, answers can't come soon enough. >> we don't want any violence, we don't want construction. we want justice. >> reporter: the expedition hearing for the accused gunman last night is now set for friday no comment from his public defender. wisconsin's governor today authorized another 500 members of the state's national guard. lester >> gabe, a lot of fallout from this as we can imagine, pro athletes now taking a stand with an nba team refusing to take the court late today, the players protesting racial injustice miguel almaguer has late details >> reporter: i don't

we are right now, the safety building, that's because law enforcement and the city police department and the kenosha's it is to some people, we are the bad people. to the majority of the community, we are the people that go out and help save and protect. the other part of it is the courthouse. it represents justice. i know the people are looking for justice. whatever it is, there is justice where we are found guilty and when we are found innocent. i am sure that will come out in time. on monday the numbers grew. our resources also grew. we put calls throughout the state to local sheriff departments and police department and they showed up in numbers. in the hundreds. we put it out to, also -- mond we thought we put it out to the national guard. we found out we had our wires crossed. we didn't actually request the national guard on sunday night. the second night they delivered people and last night they delivered more. we are thankful for the national guard. like i said, we had the sheriff's departments coming from all over the state of wisconsin. they brought their personnel. they brought their equipm

he was shot, because local officials never approved the purchase of body cameras for the kenosha police department. the video ignited a new wave of protests across the country. family members of blake joining the rally on saturday, as demonstrators marched to the kenosha county courthouse, demanding an end to racial inequality and police brutality. >> i'm tired of this! i'm tired of this! no justice >> no peace! >> no justice! >> no piece! >> and we're not gonna stop! >> reporter: his family is calling on police to arrest the officer who shot him and the others who were involved. >>> well, the white house announced tonight that president trump will travel to kenosha on tuesday. the president plans to meet with law enforcement ask survey the damage left by riots in the wake of the shooting of jacob blake. at this time, it's unclear if the president will actually meet with blake's family. >>> well, facebook's ceo mark zuckerberg is admitting that the company made a mistake in not removing the page of a militia group earlier this week. it called for people in kenosha, wisconsin, to arm themselves as

today we're going to see how the kenosha police department is going to respond to another event of policelity. how long is it going to take to terminate this officer that we're involved in this tragedy. how long? we are within the first 48 hours right now. let's see if our marching, let's see if our advocacy is making a change. because we don't need any more examples. heaven is full to its capacity with victims who have been taken at the hands of law enforcement. it's at capacity. and that's probably one of the reasons why jacob lives today. so we ask now for change. we ask for everyone's continued support. we're demanding the police department to take swift action. we ask for transparency. we ask for our local and governmental officials to act swiftly to enforce legislation. it's not so much about creating new legislation. it's about enforcing what's on the books now. and that's what we call for. that's what this family wants. and we will not stop until we get it. black lives matter, and it's very expensive. it's very expensive. and you will see the expense that the taxpayers have the bu

one thing is that the kenosha police department does not have body worn cameras and never be able to see for ourselves and the public not see for themselves exactly what happened on camera and heard stories from witnesses saying that there was a domestic dispute between two young ladies and that he intervened, jacob blake intervened in that at some point. that is one thing that we hear from witnesses but we haven't been able to corroborate that, for example, with police and the investigation still ongoing and so we're not getting details as to the lead-up of what happened. and you know, we are now going into two, two and a half days in and we haven't heard anymore details but we did hear that he somehow intervened in between two young ladies who were having a dispute. we do not know how and why police came to try and arrest him. and how this all ended up in such a shooting where he was shot in the back. we don't know the details just yet just from what the witnesses have been telling us. >> sara, appreciate it. >>> just in, new cnn reporting on the qanon supporter who's closer to con

that really we have seen is building that we're in right now, the safety building, the police department, the kenosha sheriff's department is stationed here. it is to some people, to some people it's we're the bad people. and to the majority of the community, we're the people that go out and help save and protect. the other part of it is the courthouse. the courthouse represents justice. and i know the people are looking for justice. whatever it is, there's justice whether we're found guilty or innocent, so i'm sure that will come out in time. on monday, the numbers grew. our resources also grew. we put out an all call throughout the state to local sheriff's departments and police departments, and they showed up in numbers. in the hundreds. we put it out to -- we also put it out there to monday, we thought we put it out to the national guard, and we found that we had our wires crossed. we didn't actually request the national guard on monday night. or was it sunday ? the first night, because we had wires crossed. the second night, they delivered people, and the third night, they delivered more. we're

and say it's tragic obviously for jacob blake and his family prayed it's tragic for the kenosha police department. increasingly it's tragic for the people who live in kenosha who now three nights in a row have had to live through fired scum of riots, and mayhem on the streets. they have got to take quicker swifter action there. we went to a situation like this several years ago and we called the state patrol and, we brought the national guard and ended it immediately. the other thing that helped is at times clergy coming to try to defuse the situation. it never got close to escalating into something like this. sadly, the governor and other officials haven't acted quick enough. thankfully they only took the advice present the president excepting his help prayed i don't know why it took joe biden three nights of rioting in the violence into desk before speaking out against the violence. you can be upset about what you saw in the videotape, no doubt about that, but you have to call out the violence. that's been a pattern we've seen in portland, seattle, and elsewhere across the country. >> it's unfo

who shot blake in the back seven times was russ ten sheskey, a seven-year veteran with the kenosha police department leave during the course of the investigation. to to to tony ever sent in the national guard. the curfew will be in effect through sunday. >>> police have arrested a 17-year-old man who allegedly opened fire late tuesday killing two and wounding another in kenosha, wisconsin. kyle rittenhouse faces multiple counts including first-degree murder after allegedly firing into a crowd gathered to protest the protest of the shooting of jacob blake. a warping that -- a warning that the video i'm going to show you is disturbing. it show as man aiming a rifle at protesters. one person a piers to try to grab the weapon before a shot is fired. at least one other person was shot before the shooter fled the scene. nbc news can not con furthermore what happened leading up to it or whether the shooting is the same one describes by the police. speaking before the arrest was announced was barnes who said the gunman was believed to be a vigilante and part of a militia group who showed up to protect prope

investigation is policed by the camera footage and that is because as we understand that the kenosha police departmentdecided not to prioritizing. and that will obviously leave very significant gaps in the investigation. what justified although shots i will wear my mask and i will do anything to touch my son. i think one of the things that must be externally frustrating for the community and the family is that these answers are very slow to come and wonder if they will come at all. >> i think that's a frustration that most african-americans feel today. we just want answers and, there continues to be a conflation between peaceful protesters asking for answers and those who choose to use a frame to loot and riot and complete violence. that's what it's really, really heartbreaking. and we want folks from nikki haley and donald trump to work with us to take illegal guns off of our streets. there are murderers and drug dealers off of the corner and it's not one thing or another, it's all of those things together. i think that's why black african-americans and black folks are so frustrated at the entirety o

so was there new training, had anything changed in the kenosha police department since then? >> you know, i think the biggest change has probably become in attitudes. i think the police officers aren't as head strong as they used to be. i think there's been some change that way. and that's the good thing. once again, in 2014, a group of us spear headed a movement in wisconsin that became the first state in the united states to ensure that police officers don't investigate themselves after a shooting. and this week i know that we have been working on another legislation and we'll be taking a look at police-involved deaths and we'll have a review board kind of like the ntsb take a look at the root cause analysis and try to determine what was the real factors involved. and how can we make sure that this doesn't happen again. about 30% of all police deaths are labeled as use of force errors and in my own son's death, the police officer placed the gun on the mirror and the other police officer killed my son in front of his mother and sister. was it a human condition, communication

i read that it's not the kenosha police department and others have been brought in? orter: almost immediately they stepped back here not only gave up the scene to an outside agency but also to wisconsin's department of justice to actually investigate this, to investigate the shooting itself, so that is still ongoing and in speaking to people here they're hopeful to get answers to the questions because all we know is that it started as this kind of domestic disturbance outside. police responded and some point that's when mr. blake starts to walk towards that suv and then those shots rang out. hayed an opportunity to speak to a 22-year-old who's actually the man who shot that video. he described the shock wave that was sent through this community and for him as a black man he said seeing that was traumatizing, filling him with anger though also willing to take a breath and to let the investigation run the course and when you step back and take a look at other similar incidents in the country, for the community here in wisconsin is certainly going to fuel concerns and sp

has -- why haven't -- i know the kenosha police department handed this over to state investigators as per, you know, that's what the procedure is now, but why hasn't there been some sort of official explanation of all of these things even if it's not directly, you know, giving up details of an on going investigation? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, it is unusual. i mean, i know you've covered these cases and i've certainly covered my share of these cases and it's unusual not to have some of just the straight facts according to police and then you also have those facts that the people on the ground, the witnesses are giving, as well. this time we're hearing from the union but not hearing from any of the investigative agencies on any of these details handed out by the association and so it is very confusing. i want to mention there were warrants out for jacob blake's arrest, but we've learned just this afternoon from his local attorney here that indeed, those arrests he said, those warrants have been vacated and jacob blake was actually, he was actually cuffed to his bed. his leg was cuffed

has -- why haven't -- i know the kenosha police department handed this over, you know, to state investigators, as per -- you know, that's what the procedure is, now. but why hasn't there been some sort of official explanation of all of these things? even if it's not directly, you know, giving up details of an ongoing investigation. >> yeah. i mean, it -- it -- it is unusual. i mean, i know you've covered these cases. and i've certainly covered my share of these cases, and it's unusual not to have some of just the straight facts, according to police. and then, you also have those facts that -- that people on the ground, the witnesses, are giving as well. this time, we are hearing from the union but we are not hearing from any of the investigative agencies on any of these -- these details that have been handed out by the association. and so, it is very confusing. i do want to mention something. that there was warrants out for jacob blake's arrest. but we learned, just this afternoon, from his local attorney here that, indeed, thos arrests, those warrants, have been vacated. and jacob blake was

we understand that the kenosha police department was given the budget for the body cams a couple years decided not to spend the money on them. so none of the officers involved were wearing body cameras. harris? >> harris: what did they do with the money they didn't spend on the body cam? do we know? >> we don't know specifically where that particular chunk of money went, harris. obviously they felt they had other priorities and did not want to prioritize body cameras. one other piece of information i should mention today, harris, quickly, is that jacob blake's father has told the "chicago sun times" newspaper that his son is now paralyzed from the waist down. harris? >> harris: yeah. doctors, i had also further red they haven't determine if it will be permanent yet but a disturbing detail. jonathan, thank you. emmanuel cleaver will join me now, the democratic congressman from missouri. member of the congressional black caucus. i do want to talk to you about the convention, r.n.c. and all of that but i first want to welcome you to the program. just get your top line thoughts about where

also on friday we found out the identities of the two other kenosha police department officers involved in blake's on henning. already known was selven year rhett van rusten sheskey, vincent arenas and britney meronek. joining me is mandela barnes. lieutenant governor, thank you for being with me this morning. what's the latest on this case that you know about? >> i just know it's an ongoing investigation. i'm finding out information as quick as you are. >> what'ses reason the police are giving, arguing, stating for legally having shot jacob blake in the black seven times? >> these are the arguments you hear all the time. there's always a reason, always an excuse and too often bad behavior is dismissed. that's why we're in the situation that we're in. if we had the accountability we deserved as elected officials and as community members in general, as the public, we wouldn't be in the place that we are with this racial reckoning. if it continues down this path where there's this effort to justify every police shooting, even when they're on camera and it is so visibly wrong, then that ju

>>is ruston sheskey he's a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department the wisconsin attorney general said blake said that he had a knife at the time of the incident and that police were responding to which was a domestic violence call that blake's girlfriend had made. now blake is in the hospital in milwaukee, his family says he's paralyzed from the waist down. >>well now to the latest on the wildfires burning here in the bay area crews are making some progress and we put up here on the screen. some of the latest containment numbers for you the lnu lightning complex fires burning in the north bay now 33% comply contained. the scu lightning complex fires in the east and south bay's now 35% contained and the czu august lightning complex fire in san mateo and santa cruz counties now 21% contained. >>we have team coverage of the czu lightning complex fire in san mateo and santa cruz counties and you can see in red here the circle around the area that's been burned by this complex of fires covers will tran is live at the cal fire base camp at scotts valley with more on what's goin

he is ruston sheskey he's a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department and wisconsin attorney general veal that blake said he did have a knife at the time of the incident. police were responding to a domestic violence call that was made by blake's girlfriend. blake remains in the hospital in milwaukee, his family says he's paralyzed from the waist down after being shot 7 times in the back. another story that we're following a powerful hurricane that amor amor in the gulf coast. and this is video from some of the damage this morning look at the trees that were toppled roadways were flooded. homes wiped out by these high winds and rain in louisiana and we just learned a 14 year-old girl is the first death connected to the storm a tree fell on her home killing her darryl forges has more. >>a big time stars coming through here, it's all for right now that's all i got to get worse with light of the worsening yet. >>hurricane laura made landfall early thursday morning in southwestern louisiana, as a category 4 hurricane bringing with it 150 mile per hour winds. putting it in a tie w

he is ruston is sheskey a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department the wisconsin torture attorney general says that blake had a knife at the time of the incident it was in the car was not on him and that police were responding to a domestic violence call made by his girlfriend. now he remains in the hospital in milwaukee, his family says he's paralyzed from the waist down. and that is one of the stories that we're following the other story that we're following this breaking news in the bay area we want to give you the very latest on the fire's containment is growing even if these fires do continue to rage the lnu complex fire is 33% contained so you can see that that one is getting a little better. the scu complex fire is 35% contained. and the ccu complex fire in sammut and santa cruz counties is 21% contained right now so let's go to our team coverage of the fires starting with the czu san mateo santa cruz county fire you can see the burned out area on the map here and kron four's will tran covering that from cal fire base camp and scotts valley well. >>there is good news to pas

>> reporter: the kenosha police department almost immediately after the shooting took a step back, theyestigation over to state authorities, in this case wisconsin's department of justice. they suggested that it could be another 30 days before they can conclude this investigation. so that could be up to a month before many of the people on these streets and of course mr. blake's family will have answers that we've been looking for, for almost 24 hours now. >> joining us to discuss, cnn's legal analyst laura coates. what should we expect to hear from them? >> reporter: well, they're going to have a period of time when they're going to figure out all of the relevant players, any witnesses who may be there for the officers involved in shooting -- any conflicts of interest or potential people to say hold on you don't want the fox guarding the hen house. you're going to have a combination of investigatory techniques that are going to be used to try to understand what happened, which officer shot, was it both officers who dispatched their guns? was it just one? and then they're going to hand

investigators confirming officer rusten sheskey been with the kenosha police department seven years firedse bullets into his back after officers tried to tase and arrest blake. we don't know why they were trying to arrest him. violence in streets of kenosha and including that 17-year-old charged with shooting two protesters. and an hour ache the kenosha county sheriff, police chief and mayor spoke in a press conference without seeking questions from reporters and offered no new details about jacob blake. what do we know about the events prior to the shooting of jacob blake? >> reporter: very little information, jake, as to the event leading up to the shootings. specifically in the moments before the shooting when police chased him around it's car trying to grab him and then fired on him seven times in the back. of course, we know they claim there was a knife in the car. mr. blake himself they say told them that. confessed there was a knife in the car but we don't have explanations why the officer felt so threatened that he needed to fire his weapon. as you said, police today having a pres

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that officer's name is rusten sheskey, a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department. we got that as part of new communication from the wisconsin department of justice who is leading the investigation into what happened at this point. they also dropped new details saying that jacob blake admitted that he had a knife. however, they did not elaborate on when exactly he admitted to having that. they also say they found a knife under the floorboard of the driver's seat. those are all things that are going play into this investigation as it moves forward. they've set a deadline of about 30 days to refer their investigation over to the kenosha county prosecutor's office here and they will be the ones to determine whether charges are filed against this officer or any others when the time comes. omar jimenez, cnn, kenosha, wisconsin. >> thanks, omar, for that. >>> so pro sports events here in the u.s. have been postponed as enraged athletes threatened and took action following the shooting of jacob blake. the milwaukee bucks basketball team boycotted their gym on wednesday, wa

he is to see their rusten sheskey he's a seven-year veteran of the kenosha police department the wisconsin attorney general revealed that blake said that he had a knife at the time of the incident police were initially responding to a domestic violence call involving blake his girlfriend called the police as i said blake right now is in the hospital and his family says he's paralyzed from the waist down. the other breaking story that we're following this morning a powerful hurricane that's hammering. >>the gulf coast, and it should hit at any moment, this is a from overnight dollars already see this damage from the strong winds and blowing buildings in louisiana calls causing windows to blow right out john trouble is the weather center with more on this hurricane. >>and they always said let's talk about 1 o'clock or so this morning. yeah, we saw a landfall me that 01:00am pacific time or central time rather where we are scarily still seeing that eye of the storm passing further inland the category 4 storm initially weakening to a category 2 system now still packing winds of over a 100 mile

but why haven't they at least, or the kenosha police department release someday basic details of the shooting including the name of the police officer who shot jacob blake, the other officer who was involved and by now everyone has seen that video. >> and literally the whole process again is we go to the state and we let them handle everything. so on the investigation we do nothing other than the state gives out the information and the state is basically the one who has all information control. there's not much we can do about that. that is literally the state wants to do it and has been doing so. >> unfortunately since sunday, violence on the streets of kenosha and at least at times have overshadowed jacob blake's fight for justice. how did this happen? we see the video, mayor, of your town, of your city, huge numbers of buildings are completely destroyed. they've been burnt to the ground, the looting. all of this has been awful. >> and it is very discouraging of what has occurred. but i do want to make a point here because i think it's important. first off, the blake family, mrs. b

. >> and the kenosha mayor just announced that the police department in kenosha, that the police departmentve body cameras. they hadn't had that budgeted, at least not yet. thank you very much. >>> let's get some more on this very disturbing case. joining us now, the attorney ben crump. he's representing jacob blake and his family. he's also represented the families of george floyd and breonna taylor. thanks so much, ben, for joining us. first of all, what can you tell us about jacob blake's condition? do you have an update? >> the only update is what was told to his family in the wee hours of the morning that he's in stable condition, but he's still in the icu and they cannot tell at this moment what his prognosis will be. >> what about his children? i understand three of his sons actually witnessed the shooting. is that right? >> it is correct, wolf. and it's just shocking and outrageous and devastating to people like me who saw the video. can you imagine the psychological issues these three babies are going to have for the rest of their lives seeing their father shot this many times in t

kenosha police department issued people to hold their statement. was air lifted to the hospital in milwaukee where he remains in icu. let's discuss with sarah sidner covering on one of these stories. i can see the fire behind you of the fire and police presence and second night of protest. what is it like on the ground there? >> reporter: the national guard called in. you got a small group of protesters across the courthouse. what you are seeing is fire is one of them that's burning here. that's the state of wisconsin, department of correction is the field of office here in kenosha that's completely burned through. there is another building up the street burnt through. this is the result of an explosion of anger after seeing that awful video that you just showed there. some people were witnesses to that and others saw it here in kenos kenosha may see it on their phone or screens. for many people, this was hard to watch and created a great deal of anger and a deep-seeded fear and a lot of pain as this wrapped up in all another black man shot and kil

the family yesterday in that press conference also announced a civil lawsuit against the kenosha police department. prior to the explanation for that lawsuit, they said is because of the amount of care and medical attention that mr. blake and his kids will need as they recover from this situation. so, that's part of the explanation for why they're launching the civil case. you hear mr. blake still going through the tough recovery, still being hospitalized and having surgeries, latest surgery was yesterday afternoon as the family was talking to reporters. hallie? >> shaquille brewster, gabe gutierrez, thank you for your reporting. i want to bring in mandela barnes, lieutenant governor barnes, thank you for being with us this morning and taking the time to be here. >> thank you so much for having me today. >> so here we have the state of emergency in effect in your state, in wisconsin, more police, more national guard, deployed last night and yet here we are this morning, two more people dead after another night of these demonstrations. can you provide some clarity as to what happened last night, an

overnight and we're not hearing anything we thought would be addressed by kenosha police or by the kenosha county sheriff's department. we do know the person that was arrested was actually arrested by a different department, the antioch police department. that is a town about a dozen miles outside of kenosha, and we understand from the antioch police that, indeed, the 17-year-old is also from and the u okthe -- from antioch so he had come into town. what we do not know, we've seen so many social media have you had yoes one of which shows a young man who has a large weapon almost as large as he is walking through the streets being chased by people screaming he shot someone and then we have, we see him fall. we see him turn the gun, people coming up to him trying to apprehend him or attack him and he fires one shot at one person who crumples to ground and then you see him fire another shot at someone else who is at pouint blank range. we talked to a witness who said he was live streaming this. he said he was there and saw everything happen and the injuries to the man shot in the arm were massive. that this was a high p

when you keep killing black people for no reason >> reporter: no comment today from kenosha police the justice departments now assisting state authorities with the investigation. tonight the governor says there will be an increased national guard presence here. lester >> thank you >>> it's now been 165 days since police shot and killed breonna taylor in her own home today hundreds of protesters taking to the streets of louisville, kentucky, demanding justice. none of the officers who executed a no knock warrant on taylor's apartment in march has been charged. two remain on the force. a third has been fired. >>> night two of the republican national convention and in a break from tradition, first lady melania trump is set to speak from the white house rose garden. after the convention's spirited opening night. >> reporter: all in the family tonight with the first lady stepping into the spotlight for one of her highest profile and longest speeches yet. her speech will be very uplifting and positive i would say very forward looking. melania trump will debut the newly renovated rose garden speaking in front o

over the last three days, the kenosha police department has not commented, only to say that its officers were responding to a domestic incident. but again, two people dead. one person injured following another night of unrest here, savannah. >> all right. gabe gutierrez on a devastating night there. thank you. >>> and craig joins us now with a look at the second night of the republican national convention. hey, craig. good morning. >> that's right, hoda. tuesday night struck a decidedly different tone. we heard calls of unity from within the first family including melania trump in her longest speech yet. peter alexander has more on all of that. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. with parts of the broadcast from the white house, the convention didn't just blur the line between governing and politics, it seemed to erase it all gelady speaking sympathetically as the death toll from coronavirus nears 180,000. first lady melania trump solo in the spotlight with a strikingly different tone than her husband offering condolences for those affected by the coronavirus pandemic. and ac