. >> kent maguire, you were going to say. >> ingrid is doing what she is supposed to do.t does not mean that policy makers shouldn't appreciate the real opportunity gap that is embedded in the reality that ingrid faces in her school. they are very clear resource attention. >> if we were to take your map, kent maguire and overlay it with a map of standardized test scores, would we see a lot of commonalties, would we see a lot of, let's see, one to one correlation between the places where a lot of kids are poor, and a lot of kids are not scoring high? >> if you were in massachusetts, the average expenditure would be - per child would be upwards of 13,000-$14,000 a student. and the i think grade reading and maths scores are on what is called the national assessment of educational progress, would be 30 points on average higher than in mississippi. where they'd spent approximately half as much per student. free and reduced lunch rates of 70% in mississippi. 34% in massachusetts. i think there is a correlation there that we about. >> are the kids aware of their own circumstance