and his wife at a restaurant here in iowa in which this guy, kasari, gave a $25,000 check to kent sorenson's. the check was written on kasari's wife's jewelry business, not the ron paul campaign, but it was part of this effort to woo sorenson over to the paul campaign. so we know for certain that connection. jesse benton, obviously, was running the ron paul campaign, was regularly in iowa, a part of that iowa campaign leading up to the caucuses. >> jason, obviously, with rand paul now starting his own presidential campaign, tapping jesse benton to have this key role in running his campaign, running his super pac, which in some ways is even more important than the way you run the campaign these days, obviously, everyone is wondering if this investigation is going to follow him into his own presidential election efforts, whether jesse benton may end up getting named if the investigation does result in further indictments or anything like that. in the meantime, while we wait for that and we can speculate on that, there is a question about what this means for the iowa caucuses. is -- should we s