kent walker has testified.an offer to testify this hearing, they speak in a number of different ways and they did offer to testify a missed opportunity, but between the committee and company if they want to send somebody up or not. emily: kent walker is that the -- is not the ceo of google. not a founder of google either. you think going forward google has the representation it needs in washington as it deals with issues around trying to potentially reenter china? the president taking aim at google over and over again for what he perceives as bias. michael: there are so many different issues the companies are facing, and frankly they are taking a lot of proactive steps, and i give them credit for doing that, making changes and improvements on their own. google's will are presented in washington and certainly have a number of experts back in mountain view, and who they want to send, that is between them and the committee. emily: in terms of next steps as the president continues to train his ire on google, facebo

google has said they will send cancel walk or -- kent walker.gress has said that's not good enough. >> they want to see the ceo, pachai, but they were not subpoena him to show up. i would say he is much more in the mold of google founders. he is a product guide, engineering. he loves being in front of the company, the developer conferences. he does not love the politics and does not love sitting in front of and being grilled by senators. emily: is facebook making a mistake by not sending their top executive? >> it can be. that seriousness that facebook and twitter are showing is well received in washington and by the public. remember, we are part of the audience. i think it is a missed opportunity. when of the challenges for all these companies is that data has been one of the biggest assets, their algorithms have been one of the biggest assets. they should perhaps be making sure they are in the conversation to defend part of their assets that are so important while being responsive to the public. i think not having somebody senior there makes t

google will be on capitol hill, although they will not be testifying but kent walker the senior vice and the chief legal officer has submitted some written testimony and the themes are very familiar to what we've been telling you between facebook and also twitter. he says -- and this is a statement he gave to cnbc. google passes along this statement, over the past 18 months we've met with dozens of committee members and briefed major congressional committees numerous times on our work to prevent foreign interference in u.s. elections. our senior vice president of global affairs and chief legal officer, who reports directly to our ceo, will be in washington on september 5th. he will deliver the written testimony but and brief members of congress on the work and answer any questions that they may have. basically they have put in place several things of verification program, inad disclosures so if you click on an ad there is a disclosure there, a transparency report for election ads and a number of other things, so basically they are a little bit on the defensive going into these senate

the going parent offered to send its chief legal officer, kent walker, but that was rejected by key lawmakersthe management team decided that under the circumstances they wanted to send kent, the senior global affairs person he would have been the right person to discuss the issues >> do you think they have responded to last week's allegations that search results were infected with political bias they relied on trying to explain their algorithms i can't understand it. >> i think the algorithms are complicated. i think political bias never entered the search results i think the search results, there's a deep trust relationship with users. i think if google changed this, people would abandon google. >> algorithms are programmed by people this google algorithm has been a black box. every year there are so many updates to this algorithm it's a black box. how does the company explain there is no political bias when the algorithm is hard to understand >> the algorithm is difficult to understand we have many, many people who basically are constantly tuning the algorithm looking at what is the search

if you talk to google, they will say they offered their head of public affairs, can -- kent walker to go. but that obviously wasn't good enough for the senate. as you noted, larry page has been reclusive over the years. but the question is why he didn't appear at this very crucial time in the company's history? there is speculation that it might've been a strategy that the more they were not present at the hearing, the more the focus might've been on facebook or twitter. sheryl sandberg being present and jack dorsey. obviously that has backfired. emily: well, roger, longtime tech investor who has been railing on facebook, makes a point in your piece that google has benefited from facebook being the focus of the last few but they've done facebook a huge favor by not being there and lach makers' attention has now turned to google. selina, what harm did larry page do by not showing up? >> they made a calculated risk thinking they want to stay out of this toxicity and that google feels that it should be relegated to facebook and twitter's universe of problems. but by not being there, they

alphabet ceo larry page who declined and the committee rejected google's offer to send its policy svp kent walker. now google criticized for failing to send an executive and samberg and dorsey were also praised to answer a range of questions. become to you. >> this all of the doj indicating that they will examine whether or not social media giants are stifling viewpoints it's just -- the hearings may be almost wrapping up, but what's the next step. >> back to the google point, it will be interesting to see what google is called again and a lot of the questions in the hearings were answered with dorsey saying we'll have to follow up and send you more information dorsey who has been pressed on the question of bias said that when it comes to examining bias and algorithms that they designed algorithms to be fair, but they're in the early days of really understanding the issues of bias and and they're starting to steady. i it's my happeneding that ga rith ams. >> thank you, julia boorstin joining us from rayburn over in congress the social stocks in the spotlight getting slammed. twitter, facebook, go

the senate rejected the top policy executive, kent walker.o there could be an empty seat highlighting page's absence. >> julia, stick around if you can. we want to play sound from mark zuckerberg this is all from when he appeared before congress in the spring here's what he told the house panel about regulation >> i think that it is inevitable that there will need to be some regulation so my position is not that there should the no regulation, but i also think you have to be careful about what regulation you put in place for a lot of the reasons you're saying. a lot of times regulation by definition puts in place rules that a company that's larger like ours can easily comply with but might be more difficult for a smaller startup to comply with these are all things that need to be thought through carefully. >> let's bring in cyrus mowowala, and julia is still joining us do you expect anything material to come out of today's hearings or just a lot of yelling by certain members of congress and we move on with the status quo >> i think if we go b

google has said they would send kent walker.ongress has said that is not good enough. >> just this morning our reporter spoke to some senators both republican and democrat that said they want the c.e.o. but they're not going as far as we know right now to subpoena. emily: why not? >> i don't know. google's former c.e.o. eric schmidt loved this kind of stuff. right? he loved getting in toronto front and he was partly the to do so chairman the founders didn't have to do. this is a product guy, he loves being up in front of the company, at the development conferences. he does not love addressing politics and certainly doesn't love sitting in front being grilled by senators. emily: kate, is google making a mistake? by not sending their top executive? >> i think they are missing an opportunity. he is an incredible communicator. part of it is that seriousness that now facebook and twitter are showing i think is well received in washington. i think it's well received by the public. remember we are part of the audience here, too. it is

table larry page, the ceo, was invited but they rejected saying they would send a policy executive, kent walkerwe'll see how that shakes out. >> is there any expig ectation a the questions will be more pointed or technologically literal than some questions asked of mark zuckerberg >> i think there were some memorable instances where the senators showed that they were not so familiar with facebook's business model mark zuckerberg had to explain to them how facebook worked, the fact it was an ad-supported business so i think enough time has passed since that april testimony that i would think there would be a certain amount of education on how these businesses work. i think having read dorsey's testimony, a lot of what he'll be talking about is explaining the systems and the business model of twitter >> you remember, since it's the ten-year anniversary of your finlt c financial crisis -- >> my financial crisis >> you remember when lloyd was in front of the senate, they're saying you shorted all these things, he said we make a market if someone wants to do that, we'll be the person. they had no id

kent walker, who appeared on google's behalf last time the tech giants were up on the hill.used to be there general counsel. and the committee said that is not good enough, we need to hear someone at the executive level. we'll submitted some testimony be they will not represented, because they are not sending the committee wanted. host: what are the representatives expected to say companies?of their we saw what mark zuckerberg said today, but what about twitter? what are they doing? guest: twitter will talk about how they have rolled out various in the past year to fight for actors on the platform, whether it is via a new technology, artificial intelligence, adding half who go through advertisements to see that everyone is who they say they are. they involve, to a certain extent, excepting the call for more regulation of political advertisements and have done their own forms of that by putting advertisers through a stricter process to get ads place. and like mark zuckerberg said in his op-ed, make sure elections around the world go more smoothly. they will say why they can d