a growing number of americans, like keri, are trying to live with less. >> what do you do with it? dust and you keep it or hoard it or, you know, just have it to have it or use it? is it functional? so i think that's part of the lens that you have to use in making these decisions about what to keep and what to, you know, give away this is the table we will be donating to wider circle, one of the first items that we purchased as newlyweds and sort of building your home. it's the piece that i feel we can pass on. >> reporter: but you've had it for such a long time and it must have so many memories. >> yes. >> reporter: how difficult was it to let go? >> part of it was difficult in terms of making that decision and part of it was able to see that it would go on to be used and not just collecting dust. >> reporter: a wider circle is a charity that redistributes stuff to people who don't have anything. staff are kept busy because washington has one of the biggest wealth gaps in the country. >> stuff is much more than stuff. stuff touches on our emotional and spirit actual states. that's

. >> hey, this isn't because we're stupid keri, come on chip, we're not dumb, right?he real problem we understand what is bad for us. we're not taking the government recommendations. how, why would people be willing to make a change in their diet for the good? >> well i think -- gerri: ask chip. >> okay. >> well they shouldn't be based on false promises to save the environment. this all works into the president's sort of climate action plan because the dietary council giving out recommendations of greenhouse gas emission and which foods produce less. when you work through the numbers, none of them make any difference in the big picture. highly misleading. >> patently misleading. you want to say? >> a lot of dietary guidelines are for federally funded meal programs. gerri: don't have a very long arm. they will influence a lot of people. make the difference what foods are sold and what foods are not sold. at end of the day companies make decisions about what they're willing to invest in. dr. david, to you do you go along with the idea this has been proposed numerous pla