i mean, again, bernie kerik has served federal time as a convicted felon. we're looking, though, i'm guessing at the possibility of another contempt vote if one, two, three, four, five, or all six say we're not going to do this. >> you read my mind, brian, i actually just got a text in from the former commissioner bernie kerik who was issuing a fiery statement in response to the house select committee saying he will not be threatened, intimidated, forced into bankruptcy or silenced by the committee and he's actually going to produce the investigations and expose election irregularities according to this statement, suggesting he is going to cooperate with the committee and provide the documents they have requested. i think it's worth noting that some of the documents that the committee have requested play into that legal argument that peter baker just mentioned, which is that the committee is seeking the hotel bills and the evidence that shows that bernie kerik actually footed the bill for the legal operation stay at the willard hotel. and the fact that camp

one plot twist to keep in mind is that trump and kerik signalled that kerik wants to testify publiclyommittee wants that to happen. the next big question the committee has to sort out is does kerik sit for an interview if there are not tv cameras covering the entire thing. but we do know he will be producing documents. >> kerik got a pardon from donald trump. the tv package might be a requirement. >>> nbc news is reporting the u.s. circuit court of appeals for the district of columbia notified lawyers for trump the house committee and the national archives they should be prepared to address whether the cart has the legal authority to even hear this dispute. the fact that the court is wondering about its authority to take up the case is telling. courts are protective of their jurisdictions. if trump's lawsuit is dismissed it would pave the way for the january 6th committee to get documents from the archives. we know that is something donald trump is desperate to have not happen. any sense on how this news has landed both on the committee side and on the trump side? >> this is undeniabl

last but certainly not lost is bernie kerik, as ryan mentioned. he vociferously said, i'm not going to play along with this committee, i'm not going to do that but he is a former trump advisor. he too, again, keep coming back to this, present at that january 5th meeting. that meeting, i think, the getting inside the room of that meeting, is what a lot of this is about, a lot of the subpoenas are about. my guess is a lot of the future subpoenas we're going to see are going to be about people who were at that meeting or called into it and what they knew because that was 24 hours before the cataclysm for american democracy happened. that's all six of them. we do expect more. but that's what we know about who's been subpoenaed thus far. >> all right, chris cilizza, walking us through every step of the six, thank you so much. >>> let's bring in cnn legal analyst cordero, former counsel to the assistant attorney general for national security. good to have you back. let's start here with the meeting on january 5th. and i think chris laid it out. if you w

why was bernard kerik subpoena bud rudy giuliani wasn't? we'll speed what congressman adam schiff, a member of the january 6 committee has to say than in just a minute. michael flynn is also on today's list of subpoenas. he of course pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi and was pardoned by donald trump on the night before thanksgiving last year, three weeks after joe biden was declared the winner of the presidential election. the pardoned michael flynn immediately threw himself at high speed into trying to help donald trump steal the election. attorney john eastman was one of the six subpoenaed. he is the author of the infamous and utterly false legal memo claiming that vice president mike pence had the authority to reject electoral college votes. angela mccallum, who worked in the trump 2020 campaign was subpoenaed to testify about her part in attempting to steal the election. the evidence of her attempts to commit election fraud were actually left on voice mail. >> my name is angela mccallum. i'm calling from trump campaign headquarters in

kerik is an ally of rudy giuliani, his former. boss he worked with to quote,, investigate allegation of voter fraud. the committee notes reporting that kerik paid for rooms, suites, in washington d.c. hotel and served as elections commence enter. it's nice that he paid, i guess. you participate in the january 5th meeting, at the hotel, he also pardon, steve bannon. john eastman, others. this is where we are tonight with outstanding subpoenas for angela mccallum, who by the way, i hope she has a lawyer, she definitely should get one, miss mccallum if you're watching. john eastman, michael flynn, and bernard carrot, as well as steve bannon who has made no moves to comply despite the contempt vote against him. so we wait to see what the newly subpoenaed trump allies, january six committee and department of justice will do next. congresswoman is the member of the select committee, to just issued these subpoenas, and she joins me now. zoe lofgren, is there a unifying the here in these folks, or should we interpret this as the committee

michael flynn, conservative lawyer john eastman and former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik, closely tied to rudy giuliani. eastman and kerik are believed to have attended meetings at the command center, a posh suite at the willard hotel where a block from the white house "the washington post" reports trump's most loyal lieutenants were working day and night with one goal in mind, overturning the results of the 2020 election. the committee also sent subpoenas to three members of the trump reelection campaign, campaign manager bill stepan, senior advisor jason miller and the executive assistant angela mccallum. mccallum apparently made calls to michigan lawmakers in december of 2020 urging them to override the state's votes and appoint more loyal electors. >> we want to know when there's a resolution in the house to appoint electors for trump, if the president can count on you to join in support. >> the committee wants these six witnesses to provide documents before thanksgiving and appear in person for testimony in early december. nbc news has reached out to all six for comm

so here's what bernie kerik said in a statement to cnn last night. i will not be threatened, intimidated, forced into bankruptcy or silenced at the hands of this committee for not looking for truth, but targeting patriots and members of the president's legal team that wanted nothing more than to investigate and expose those irregularities. jim and erica, we are already seeing defiance from the one person so far in this batch of six who has responded at least publicly now to these subpoenas being issued. we'll see what else comes from the other five. guys? >> jessica schneider, thank you. >>> also with us, former federal prosecutor laura coates. based on what we know, as jessica said, the defiance of steve bannon looms. even just what we heard in that statement there from bernie kerik, any expectation that any of that's six will comply. >> the chest thumping continues, doesn't it? the idea is why it puts more pressure on the attorney general merrick garland who as of right now they have yet to indict steve bannon on acting on the idea of thumbing his

kerik said in a statement. his confrontational tone an example of the difficult time the committee is having getting trump allies to cooperate. their ability to get witnesses to cooperate hinging in part on a decision by the department of justice which has yet to weigh in on a crimical contempt referral of steve bannon who has openly defied a subpoena. merrick garland refusing to shed any light on how the doj plans to respond. >> we evaluate these in the normal way we do. facts and the law. and applying the principles of prosecution. >> reporter: just a little more on the other subpoena targets that may not be as public names as some of the names just mentioned. nicholas luna, someone who served as the former president's body man. ben williamson, close with the former chief of staff. mark meadows. and keith kellogg. this name is interesting. the former national security adviser to the vice president, mike pence. this is one of the first individuals that we've seen with specific ties to the former vice president

i spoke to kerik briefly this morning. to that defiance you referred to, he provided us with a statement calling on the committee, demanding that the committee retract what he described as a defamatory press release, saying they need to apologize and admit this is a partisan stunt, that they are not looking for the truth. to garrett's point, it's clear that those are not the words of a man who intends to comply with this subpoena. steve bannon, a former trump advisor, had been subpoenaed and was held in contempt by the house of representatives, which sent it over to the department of justice, which is still yet to determine whether they will file a criminal contempt charge against bannon. so at this point, it's unclear whether any of these individuals based on that would have any motivation to comply. >> nearly 150 witnesses have testified to the committee, so they they are making progress. they've issued about 25 subpoenas. pressure is building on the attorney general merrick garland to follow through on that cop tempt re

flynn and kerik both got pardons from trump, right? so we are talking about a real level of loyalty. is there any question or chance that any of these six actually answer questions anytime soon or just under force of subpoena? >> maybe. you know, ryan was saying that he was surprised to see bill stepien who was the former-president's campaign manager in the last part of the campaign to be on the list. jason miller, as well. you know, those are -- well, in particular, in the case of bill stepien, he is a longtime-republican operative who worked for chris christie. who worked in other areas. now, of course, he -- once you're in the trump world, it's like the hotel california. you know? you can check out but you can never leave. and this is the ultimate, ultimate example. but someone like him, i wonder whether or not he will -- he will go in or whether he will decide that he is going to defy the subpoena, and face the legal consequences that -- that surround that. or follow the jeffrey-clark model that you mentioned. go in, but not necess

so is kerik in any position to play hardball with this committee? >> not really. not really. he does enjoy a pardon from trump that eased his life up a little bit, but he really can't bully this committee. they have every right to get these facts. it's one of the most important things congress does is information gathering, and there couldn't be more important information, don, than an insurrection, a threat to overturn a legitimate election. so getting to the bottom of this, he has no basis. all he has to do is cooperate, and it won't cost him anything. it won't bankrupt him. just show up for his deposition and tell the truth. >> what key questions do you have for all these trump aides, people like attorney john eastman or michael flynn and the other big lie promoters? >> don, i think to be maybe to draw on a little history, a question that got posed to me one time is, what did he know, and what did he know it, i think is really very central. we want to know what trump's role was. it really won't come to rest until we get that sorted out. all the surrounding evidence shows t

>> and, ryan, i understand you have some news tonight about bernard kerik. obviously, a high-profile trump and giuliani ally. he is responding to his subpoena. what is he saying? >> yeah, and this falls into that question -- under that question of cooperation. kerik, first of all, wants an apology from the january 6th select committee. he says they incorrectly identified him as being part of this group that met at the willard hotel on january 5th. he said that he was not at that meeting and he has the records to prove so. but he also said -- and this is perhaps more interesting than his plea for an apology -- is that he is ready and willing to cooperate with this investigation. that he is ready to hand over hundreds of pages of documents that he has. he wants time for he and his lawyers to go through them. redact what needs to be redacted. and then, offer up to the committee what he thinks is responsible. he is also willing to testify. he does want to do that in a public hearing. he doesn't want to do it behind closed doors. so, even though kerik is complain

rudy guiliani, steve bannon, former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik, and conservative eastman holed up in washington's willard hotel. walking distance from the white house, in a suite of rooms they called the command center. >> seth: it's just fun to imagine rudy guiliani running a command center in a hotel room "let's get started bernie, you split up the free toiletries i call the tiny shampoo. steve, order me a cobb salad, but six rows of eggs they know how to do it." [ laughter ] it's also important to remember these people only hang out with each other because there is no one else who will hang out with them [ laughter ] if bernie kerik had other options do you think he would still roll with rudy guiliani, who publicly implied a few months ago that they all partied with disgraced royal prince andrew? >> i told this to the queen of england. she said, "you did -- you did a wonderful job on september 11th, and therefore, i'm making you an honorary knight commander of the royal --" something or other i turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had

kerik was pardoned from federal crimes by trump. if they don't comply, do they send them to doj for potential prosecution? >> what's the status of the pending decisions about steve bannon? >> lots of balls in the air for the committee. steve bannon has been held in contempt by congress, sending the case to doj. three weeks merrick garland has had the case, no decision whether to prosecute. we have jeffrey clark who said he was going to testify and stonewalled with no legitimate justification. the committee has the same decision to make about clark. will they send him over to doj, his former employer, for potential prosecution. we have mark meadows, dan scavino, and kash patel, in the first batch of subpoenas. they've reportedly being engaging and negotiating with the committee, but we're going on six weeks now. the committee has to make a yes or no decision on these guy. they subpoenaed the national archives seeking documents. donald trump tried to block the subpoena. there was arguments last week. we could get a ruling from the jud

angela mccallum, executive assistant to former president trump's campaign, and bernard kerik, who participated in a meeting at the willard hotel centered around overturning the election results. all six of these people are being asked to turn over documents by november 23rd, and then they have depositions scheduled any time in the last week of november to mid-december. >> quite a rogue's gallery there. any word if they'll abide by the subpoena and testify? >> it's not clear but we know so far this committee has had difficulty getting top trump aides to offer meaningful cooperation with their investigation. we've seen in that first round of subpoenas the top trump aides like scan scavino, mark meadows, steve bannon. they've not been able to obtain any meaningful cooperation. steve bannon just completely defied the committee and was referred for criminal contempt. now on friday, former trump justice official, jeffrey clark, he did show up. he at least showed up for his interview. but he stonewalled the committee once he got there. he cited ongoing privilege concerns, ongoing litigation and at th

eastman and kerik participated in the so-called war room meetings near the white house.y plotted the investigation on the electoral college votes. and it was claimed mike pence had the authority to block the votes. the january 6th committee previously issued subpoenas for top advisers including steve bannon who the house voted to hold in contempt after he refused to testify. the decision whether to file charges against bannon is up to merrick garland. in his new book "betrayal: the final act of the trump show" carlson reports on the conversation he had with trump. he told mcdaniel he was leaving the gop and creating his own political party and he didn't care if the move would destroy the republican party. trump reportedly told mcdaniel, this is what they deserve for not sticking up for me. it was made clear if trump would follow through with his threat, they would immediately stop paying his legal bills, but the rnc threatened to value his campaign worthless. trump generated money by renting a list out to candidates at a steep cost. officials estimate it was worth about

bernard kerik, another convicted felon, behind the willard meet, the secret war room meetings that happened the days leading up to january 6th and three campaign officials, bill stepien, jason miller and andrea mccullum. they are interested the role the 3 had in spreading the big lie and then getting state boards to help them throw the election as well. >> how likely is it that the january 6th committee will actually hear from these people? >> reporter: well, some of them are between unlikely and completely not going to half i think michael flynn is very unlikely and i think eastman sun likely and kerik sun likely. perhaps the campaign officials, more seasoned, more mainstream political operatives but there's a chance to hear from those next and if and when people do defy the subpoenas the committee has to decide do we hold them in contempt and send they ever over for criminal prosecution. >> what's the status on the previous subpoenas that this committee has issued? >> reporter: still several pending. steve bon nan has been held in contempt and is waiting to see if merrick gar lamd recomme

is having with people who are not the president, who are not part of the executive branch, bernie keriky fair game. why hasn't he complied. >> i'm not sure why you think -- >> those are questions he answered. >> mr. bannon -- >> that's not protected by executive privilege. >> there are certainly conversations, if mr. -- if you're talking about conversations outside of the executive branch, clearly those are not covered by executive privilege. the central issue here is the invocation of executive privilege. that's where everything fell apart with respect to -- that's with respect to the charges here, not appearing and not producing the documents. >> part of his contempt of congress charge is because those -- the committee has been clear, and you know this, david, they have been very clear that some of what they want to ask him about has nothing to do with conversations that he had with the president. so those are questions that he could just by your admission there answer. he has chosen not to, which is what leads to the contempt of congress charge. >> here's the problem. here's the prob

bernie kerik is a really interesting character here, a long-time rudy giuliani ally.d of crimes and he was the head of the new york city police department and now in the weeks and days leading up to january 6th and on that day he materializes as somebody who was very much on board and enthusiastic supporter of all of the efforts the president was engaged in to try to overturn the election results. in fact he was on news max on the day of january 6th, according to a clip that media matters distributed in making comments that appeared to downplay the severity of what was going on at the capitol that day. all these folks have detailed insider knowledge of how trump and his closest allies were trying to reverse the election results. each one of them is absolutely key to what the committee is looking for. a conspicuous name missing from the list, of course, is rudy giuliani. he was close to what all these folks were doing. but how it appears right now is that the select committee is essentially working its way up the ladder, working inward to people closer and closer to tr

today's subpoenas followed those issued yesterday for michael flynn, rudy giuliani's associate bernie kerik. and a woman named angela mccallum. citing this voicemail to a michigan state representative. >> you do have the power to reclaim your authority and send a slate of electors that will support president trump and vice president pence. >> reporter: the question now is whether those subpoenaed today and yesterday will actually testify. the answer to that may depend on what happens with steve bannon. bannon defied his subpoena. he's been held in contempt. if the justice department prosecutors him, the others will see that they could go to jail for failing to cooperate. if justice does not cooperate, the others will see there is no price to pay for defying congress. david? >> all right, jon karl back with us tonight. jon, thank you. >>> we're going to turn next tonight to your money and more specifically, to your car. we are in a red hot market right now and tonight here, the reason why. and this question -- is your car suddenly worth more than it was a couple of years ago? and if you leas

investigating january six, tonight, what we know about what the committee wants with michael flynn, bernard kerikand more. plus, why hasn't the justice department moved on to steve bannon yet? a new reporting on the right wing playbook drawn up in advance of the insurrection. >> all we are demanding of vice president pence is this afternoon at 1:00, he let the legislatures of the state look into this. plus, the grim reality of the partisan toll, covid continues to take on america. and the former president, addresses the world in glasgow. >> some of our progress stalled when, my successor decided to unilaterally pull out of the paris agreement in his first year in office. i w

um, also, senior adviser jason miller and bernie kerik. remember him?e commissioner in new york city after 9/11 -- during 9/ 11. two associates. they both met with juul and bannon on january 5, as well as angela mccollum, an executive assistant. will they comply and what fruit could they yield? steve bannon -- here is the context -- he was held in contempt of congress over two weeks ago. doj. no decision on whether to prosecute, yet. let's bring in a key member of the committee congressman adam schiff. good to see you, as always, sir. let's start with that. >> good to see you. >> two weeks. no word from the doj. is that too long? >> i don't think it's too long. they do need to study the precedent, the facts of the case. i think it's a pretty straightforward case, though. and i hope that they move with expedition. if the justice department doesn't hold steve bannon accountable, um, it only lends credence to the idea that some people are above the law. and that cannot be true in this country. also, you know, what's at stake is the congress's ability to en

his conversations are covered by executive privilege that he had with rudy giuliani, with bernard kerik, with john eastman? none were members of the executive granch on january 5th. he gets convicted on his defiance of those communications to congress alone. when we're talking about mark meadows, the chief of staff is the closest adviser to the president. but that's not the end of the question. we were asked, what were they talking about? if they were talking about covering up for january 6th or the president's pleasure, that's not covered by executive privilege. >> robert ray, a couple of problems. the first, you don't get to exercise the privilege, you would exercise that the former president does. the second problem is, you say there's not a lot of law in this area. there really isn't any law. this is a privilege that's gone through executive action. why would we assume the supreme court would take up this matter. they've never taken it up before. >> the supreme court has taken up these questions when they got to this point in the nixon era is the only relevant example. and it's not

and bernie kerik who worked with rudy giuliani to investigate allegations of fraud nbc news has reachedas not yet heard back. >>> the justice department cracking down on one of the world's most notorious ransom ware gangs attorney general merrick garland announcing charges against two suspected hackers from the r evil ransomware group. they are responsible for thousands of cyber attacks that stole millions of dollars from companies. one of the suspected hackers is ukrainian and is currently under arrest in poland the other suspect is believed to be in russia but investigators were able to seize more than $6 million from him. >> the justice department is sparing no resource to identify and bring to justice anyone anywhere who targets the united states with a ransomware attack. >> extradition proceedings are currently underway to bring the ukrainian suspect to the united states satellite images appear to show china built mock ups of u.s. navy warships in the middle of a remote chinese desert. analysts say they're part of a new sophisticated target range that the chinese military developed

and former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik, who attended campaign meetings and workedrn the election, and helped whip up the crowd into a frenzy ahead of the capitol riot. >> and all we are demanding of vice president pence is this afternoon at 1:00 he let the legislatures of the state look into this so we get to the bottom of it, and the american people know whethe

bernard kerik, former associated with rudy giuliani. he was thought to be part of the war room, the meeting that took place at the willard room, the place of the central hub to overturn election results on january 6. john east man, who was the lawyer that wrote the memo outlining the sketchy legal strategy that he believed gave vice president pence the ability to prevent the certification of the election ors on january 6th. and then angela mccullum, perhaps the least known person in the group, but someone closely associated with the former president and was someone who on the campaign was reaching out to election officials in states to try and convince them to use their power to overturn their election results. now, the big question that we have in the issuance of the subpoenas is will it compel any of these individuals to actually cooperate. the committee has had a difficult time trying to get those, especially those closely associated with former president donald trump to provide much information, of course, steve bannon, the most --

pardoned criminal bernie kerik: the scalp. discraced lawyer john eastman: the accessorizer.ign manager bill stepien: bland master flash. executive assistant angela mccallum, the spare tiffany. and're and stephen miller as the honey trap. these trader joes was huddle together in a set of rooms and suites in the posh willard hotel in downtown d.c. their room bar tab must've been huge. it's, like, 20 bucks a pop for those mini molotov cocktails. ( laughter ) these guys did anything they could to stop biden from taking office, including putting pressure on mike pence to delay or even block certification of the election. well, good luck. pence is a master of withstanding peer pressure. even in high school, his friends couldn't get him to experiment with un-gartered socks: "no, thank you. elastic is the devil's reach-around." ( laughter ) the committee is especially interested in michael flynn, because he publicly called for the military to intervene and seize voting machines, and encouraged the president to impose martial law to force new elections in battleground states. sending

we have bannon and now meadows and seems like we have jeffrey clark, dan scavino and bernie kerik and other waiting to get on that line. you think miller and mcnayeny will comply voluntarily with this? i doubt it. if garland is not willing to charge steve bannon, not willing to put his foot down and back up congress that line will go around the corner and the january 6th committee will never get the full picture of what happened here. >> it is friday and anything can happen on a friday as we've seen over the past several years. stay close, everybody. who knows if garland will weigh in the next hour. thank you, guys, very much. elie and congressman walsh. appreciate you both. >>> it will be a long weekend of waiting for kyle rittenhouse and the families of the three men he shot during a night of unrest in kenosha, wisconsin. on monday attorneys will deliver their closing arguments in the double homicide trial and if convicted the 18-year-old could spend the rest of his life in prison. shimon prokupecz is in kenosha. walk us through this and how will this unfold? >> reporter: right. so

bernie kerik. and if merrick garland does not charge steve bannon, all of these people and even more. mcenany. . >> why would anyone who doesn't want to talk ever bother showing up? >> that's exactly why the stakes are so high. if garland doesn't put his foot down on bannon, it will be completely voluntary. people loyal to donald trump will never testify and we will never get the full truth. >> thank you, elie honig. >> thanks, john. >>> calling for action against republican congressman paul gosar. he tweeted out an anime themed video. we're not going to show you a lot of this. a lot of it is very violent. just so you get an idea, here is a snippet of it. ♪ >> all right. so after lawmakers voiced their outrage, gosar tweeted this. it's a cartoon. relax. joining me now is former florida republican congressman francis rooney to talk about this. sir, we're even hearing from gosar's estranged siblings saying there should be accountability here. what kind of disciplinary action do you think house leader

stepien, senior campaign adviser jason miller, national executive assistant angela mccallum and bernard kerik, the former new york police commissioner who took part in campaign meetings and worked with rudy giuliani to investigate voter fraud that never existed. also subpoenaed, attorney john eastman who drafted that six point plan to have mike pence invalidate the election results and michael flynn, trump's national security adviser who discussed invoking martial law after the election. >> if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities and he could place them in those states and basically rerun an election. >> now that the committee has issued subpoenas, the big question, will these folks comply? will they take a page from the playbook of steve bannon, the trump adviser who has refused to testify and the justice department has yet to decide, they had three week, they have yet to decide whether to charge and prosecute him for criminal contempt. >> joining us now is bob woodward, associate editor at "the washington post," co-author of the new book "peril" which chronicles the fraught tra

michael flynn, conservative lawyer john eastman and former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik

that his conversations are covered by executive privilege that he had with rudy giuliani, bernard kerik, john eastman. none of them were members of the executive branch when they were with the war room in the willard on november 6th. he gets convicted on those communications in my view. yes, it's important when we're talking about mark meadows, the chief of staff is the closest adviser to the president. but that's not the end of the question. the court will ask, we have to ask, what were they talking about and if they were talking about covering up january 6th, that's not covered by executive privilege. >> robert ray, a couple problems. first one is that you don't get to exercise the privilege. the president does. you would argue hereby extension the former president does. so, meadows and bannon can't say i'm exercising the problem. that's one problem. the second problem is that you say there's not a lot of law in this area. there really isn't almost any law. this is a privilege that's gone through executive action traditionally. and why should we assume that the supreme court will take

disgraced former new york city police commissioner,er york city police commissioner/ ex-convict bernie kerik, john eastman who devised the strategy that was the reason trump summoned his supporters to washington on january 6th. he's the one that basically wrote the strategy that said vice president mike pence magically had the power to overturn the election on january 6th. also a trump campaign staffer named angela mccallum, she was u according to the committee subpoenaed because she apparently called state lawmakers in at least one state and told them on behalf of the trump campaign that they should appoint trump electors, even though trump had lost in that state, lost in michigan.to b ctn all six of these trump world officials have been subpoenaed today, and along with the subpoenas, they got letters providing supporting documentation about what their alleged roles were laying the groundwork for the january 6th attack.le these six people are being asked to hand over documents and records within the next couple of weeks. they've all been subpoenaed to give testimony early next month. so tha

and finally, former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik, they want more information about the work he did with rudy giuliani to, quote-unquote, investigate voter fraud that never existed. >> bottom line, how far will the committee go to enforce the subpoenas if these trump allies follow past practice and don't comply? they have been having trouble getting some of the most prominent witnesses to cooperate. so let's dig in on all this. it's time for three questions in three minutes. let's bring in former federal prosecutor michael zeldin. also host of the podcast with michael zeldin. good morning, nice to have you this morning. >> good morning, guys. >> good morning. it includes people who were incredibly close to the former president obviously. but among all these people, who would you say is most significant and why? >> for me as a lawyer, it's john eastman because east-man is the one who fabricated the basis for the argument to pence that he could send this back to the state legislatures for review and recertification. so you have two parts of this. those who were perpetr

he was at the willard hotel insurrection headquarters on january 5th with rudy guiliani, bernard kerik and john eastman, the author of the now infamous manual for a coup. there was bannon on his podcast the day before the attempted coup. >> all hell is going to break louis tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it is going to be moving. it's going to be quick. >> that is what the committee wants to know about. and bannon's loyalty to the exblogger in florida could land him behind bars. this move also sends a warning to other trump ally who is are refusing to comply. trump's chief of staff, mark met owes did not appear for deposition today, on trump's orders. now he faces serious legal jeopardy. the committee state, quote, mr. meadows' choosing to defy the law will force the committee to pursue contempt. mr. bannon, mr. meadows, and others who go down that path won't preveal. joining me now, neal cattial. emily -- and former legal prosecutor john flannery. thank you so much. neal, i will start with you, star of billions, and one of the most brilliant

and also new tonight >>> the former new york city police commissioner, bernie kerik, demanding an apology committee. this is after the committee subpoenaed him. they said the committee was wrong when he attended a meeting with rudy giuliani, steve bannon, and pro-trump lawyer john eastman on january 5th with the topic of overturning the election. however, carrick's lawyer also says his client with comply with the subpoena. and this comes as the select committee is issuing a now round of subpoenas. whitney wild is out front on that. and, whitney, they have been actually -- i know they have talked to 200 people but a lot of subpoenas coming out here. who are the latest targets of the committee and why? >> the latest targets of the committee are people the committee believes are directly linked to the violence. this is a round of subpoenas we have been waiting for because we know that the committee is building up to trying to figure out what were the connections between all these different areas, the white house, the money, the rally, and eventually, erin, the violence. so they have zeroed i

former-new york police commissioner and pardoned felon bernie kerik who was part of the willard hotel room set up to overturn the election. then, there is john eastman, the president's attorney who put together that memo which amount today a step-by-step guide to the former president sparking a coup. >> and all we are demanding of vice president pence is this afternoon at 1:00, he let the legislatures of the state look into this so we get to the bottom of it and the american people know whether we have control of the direction of our government or not. [ cheers and applause ] >> rudy giuliani applauding him on. that was eastman at the rally leading up to the insurrection laying out the essence of a memo that would only come to light months later, and might never have seen the light of day had the scheme actually succeeded. now, the select committee wants to know more. the question, though, is will they get it from him? or any of the other five? or any of the others they have subpoenaed? tonight, it's hard to see how. on friday, former-justice department official jeffrey clark, whom th

list of subpoenas that you just showed on the screen, former new york city police commissioner bernie kerikorted from our peter alexander through his lawyer that he will cooperate with the january 6th subpoena, but that he wants an apology if the committee. there are people who are cooperating. we know that the committee has talked to more than 200 people, and some of those 200 people have been voluntary. others of them have been people who have been served with subpoenas, so the committee moving forward on their work, even if it's not exactly in the light of day. >> let's turn to this so-called unite the right trial. the jury found charlottesville victims are entitled to millions of dollars and says organizers are liable. who are we talking about exactly? what are the chances any of that money actually gets paid? >> good morning, chris. we're talking about some of the most prominent white supremacist and racist organizations in the country, including richard spencer who kind the term alt-right and defended himself in the trial and a man named jason kessler, a guy named christopher cantwell

lawmakers say oversaw the effort to challenge results and former new york city police commissioner bernie keriked efforts to investigate false claims about voting fraud in key states. >> there's a lot of interest what was going on at the willard hotel in washington. >> reporter: that's right, george. lawmakers say that some of these officials attended meetings at the willard hotel. that was said to be the command center in order to strategize how to overturn the election results. lawmakers are on this committee say they want to know every single detail about those efforts including who these advisers may have been talking to at the white house or in congress, what rallies they were connected to, who was funding it all and they are demanding that they testify behind closed doors and turn over documents in the coming weeks, george. >> rachel scott, thanks very much. robin? >>> now to that new testimony in the trial of kyle rittenhouse. the only person who survived being shot by rittenhouse during the protests last year taking the stand and describing the moment he confronted the defendant. alex p