elie, let's talk about former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik.publicly release some documents requested by the house select committee. is the committee really going to allow him to dictate the terms of his cooperation? >> oh, i doubt it, boris. i'd not call this cooperation at all for exactly the reason you say. this is not how it works. the witness doesn't get to say, well, i'm going to give you what i feel is appropriate and i'm going to hold back the rest of it. it will give the one-sided version of the story. bernie kerik has no executive privilege claim. he's never worked for the executive branch at all. he has about the same argument as steve bannon which is none. steve bannon has now been -- he's in the process of being prosecuted for contempt of congress. another thing to keep in mind about bernie kerik and steve bannon, both of these guys have previously been charged with other federal crimes and then both pardoned by trump. so they are both obviously loyal to him. i expect bernie kerik to end up down the same road at steve bannon. >> an

kerik's lawyer is saying his client will cooperate in terms of delivering those documents and turningver to the committee and also providing testimony to the committee in mid-january. so this is a win for the committee no matter how you dice it. they get to hear from another witness that they subpoenaed, bringing themselves one step closer. of course we know that kerik was involved in rudy giuliani's efforts to say that the 2020 election results were false and make those claims as well. >> jeremy peters, the former president, donald trump, has asked the u.s. supreme to block, to overturn lower court rulings allowing the national archives to hand over white house records from that day. do we have an idea what these records will likely tell us? and what's the likelihood that this effort by the former president will succeed? >> i think if you look at it in the big picture here, you've seen stonewalling, not just from the president, but from just about everybody who is connected with his presidential campaign and who is allied with him in congress. you've seen the highly unusual step here

bernie kerik former police commissioner of the city of new york. he joins us tonight.kerik, thanks so much for coming on. hate crimes seem to be the primary category of crimes. i'm not sure what a hate crime why whole category scary and political. since it is the dominant category of crime why is burning christmas trees not a hate crime according to the doj? >> well, it should be. not only to the doj it should be to the city and stated of morning. the problem we have over the next several governors like andrew cuomo instituted bail reform laws that for example right now in new york city, 83% of the people arrested on gun charges are immediately released and sent back in to the community. you have prosecutors who don't want to prosecute, there are more focused on targeting police than they are targeting the bad guys of the streets or dealing with things like this. and then you have mayors, these radical left wing mayors that basically allow this homeless issue. and a lot of it is not homeless. it's mentally ill. it's people that don't belong in the streets. they should

rudy guiliani, steve bannon, former new york city police commissioner bernard kerik, and conservativejohn eastman holed up in washington's willard hotel. walking distance from the white house, in a suite of rooms they called the command center. >> seth: it's just fun to imagine rudy guiliani running a command center in a hotel room "let's get started bernie, you split up the free toiletries i call the tiny shampoo. steve, order me a cobb salad, but six rows of eggs they know how to do it." [ laughter ] it's also important to remember these people only hang out with each other because there is no one else who will hang out with them [ laughter ] if bernie kerik had other options do you think he would still roll with rudy guiliani, who publicly implied a few months ago that they all partied with disgraced royal prince andrew? >> i told this to the queen of england. she said, "you did -- you did a wonderful job on september 11th, and therefore, i'm making you an honorary knight commander of the royal --" something or other i turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you

ke kerik says that he wants to testify at a public hearing.uliani after the election and attended a meeting to discuss how to keep trump in office. and pete aguilar says that he hopes the supreme court acts fast. >> so the courts have already ruled in our favor. our anticipation that is the supreme court will uphold that ruling in an expedited manner. >> reporter: no word on how quickly the supreme court will decide. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. sglee >> and with me now is michael zeldin, great to see you. thanks to making time with us thorn. as we just saw, the doj just released three more hours of video from the insurrection. how important is this lengthy new video as investigators start to piece together exactly what happened? >> what is clear from this video is that this was not a spontaneous uprising. this was a planned event. people came armed for battle. and that is quite apparent in this video. and so that informs the committee about whether there was pre-planning, who was involved in the pre-planning, how was it executed, how w

kerik is prepared to release certain documents next week he believes are not privileged. new york city police commissioner. imto bring in jake sherman, and jonathan allen. jake, the chairman there, chairman thompson, says the former president's delayed response could be a factor in deciding whether to make a criminal referral, meaning that congress would refer it to the adjust department. how likely is that happen? >> it seems relatively likely to be honest, the mood in the democratic caucus is that someone, specifically donald trump, and some of his allies and aides, should be held responsible for what happened on january 6th. of course, the justice department operates in a vacuum, so to speak, and does not take what congress says, it's not gospel, quite frankly. i would say, though, when it kem to these documents, when it comes to the supreme court and the political aspect of the investigation, i would say that if the supreme court decides that donald trump -- that the archives have to release these documents, it doesn't even matter anymore who is participating in the i

former new york city police commissioner bernie kerik was also scheduled for deposed and was also grantedme, there was another high profile deposition that is still slated for tomorrow. former trump justice department official jeffrey clark. he agreed to the testimony hours before the panel was expected to vote on holding him in contempt of congress. he is avoiding that at least for now. there is also this, a federal judge has a strong message to former president donald trump during a sentencing hearing for one of the capitol rioters. judge amy berman jackson did not call out donald trump by name but she did imply that he and his allies stoked fear, her words, and should be held responsible for january 6th. joining me now is punchbowl co-founder and msnbc political analyst jake sherman. also back with us, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. jake, let us start with what we're seeing with this committee. we've got two big delays, and we're also going to see jeffrey clark tomorrow. i'm particularly interested in what we can expect from clark. >> so, a few things. and i

. >> the men and women of the new york city police department -- >> reporter: bernie kerik is sayingrik says that he wants to testify at a public hearing. he worked alongside trump's former attorney rudy giuliani after the election to discredit the results and attempted a meeting at the willard hotel with other trump allies on january 5 to discuss how to keep trump in office. meanwhile committee member pete aguilar says they hope the supreme court acts fast to really on releasing documents from trump's white house. >> the courts have already ruled in our favor, our anticipation is that the supreme court will uphold that ruling in an expedited manner. >> reporter: no word on how quickly the supreme court will decide. jessica schneider, cnn, washington. >> for more on this, let's bring in former assistant special watergate prosecutor, nick, merry christmas and thank you for your time today. >> merry christmas to you. as you know, we're learning about who is cooperating and public hearings were such a crew that will part of watergate. why do you think this committee has only held that o

guiliani ally bernie kerik, investigators believe he was at insurrection headquarters.eduling we know he was supposed to sit down with them today. i'm joined now by former federal prosecutor john flannery, no stranger to the giuliani world and congressional probes. happy friday, thanks for being here. >> good to be with you. >> executive privilege is a real thing. it can protect some information and be litigated. here, as with so many other things, it has been expanded beyond a sort of a silly breaking point. and i'll just show you politico reporting on this, where schiff and the investigators are saying, look, it's very difficult for mr. meadows, having served in the white house, to maintain, quote, i can't speak about events to you, but i can speak about them in my book, which by the way, of course, he profits off of. your view of this. >> my view is, i'm not concerned about his notion of executive privilege as much as i find that i agree almost uniformly with mr. schiff. it's not his privilege to assert. but worse than that, it's not his privilege at all because it r