mark kerkorian, you saw him in duarte's story. mark good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> as an immigrant to america first you need a visa or a sponsor in order to get a green card. then you hold that green card for a few years, you apply for citizenship. you don't think people who skip these steps should be allowed to join the u.s. military in order to fast track their way to citizenship is that right? >> yes, certainly not, absolutely not. >> what do you think of the military's argument, that they say they're looking for skills that is difficult to get. >> this certain mavni program, it's only for 5,000 people this year who have not just the regular -- they don't just meet the regular requirements for joining the army. they have to have special skills like you said. most of them are either doctors, or they have some unusual language. they speak pashtun or belluci or something like this. the illegal immigrants who are thousand eligible for this program are only semi-illegal at this point. only deferred action amnesty, they h

. >> mark kerkorian is executive director. >> even for legal immigrants there are legal restrictions, it's permitted to them. for illegal immigrants they are bard from joining the military and it should stay that way. >> the program concept came out of the attacks of september 11th, 2001. one of the things that came out of the attacks is the united states had a lot of intelligence information that possibly would have allowed us to prevent these attacks but the information hadn't been translated. we had people in the country who spoke those languages acknowledge the languages we needed, but we weren't recruiting them for the military, due to the fact the immigration system was broken and dysfunctional. >> most of the mavni enlistees speak key languages needed for the military, like korean, arabic, russian and chinese. 51 recruits started basic training and a handful of them have already been naturalized. the army says it wants to expand mavni to boost the number of recruits who enlist but federal funding is set to expire in late 2016 and there's no talk in congress of extending it. >>