." >> it is where kerouac.huge at that time, in 1960, it was like the present and future of american pop culture. smothers brothers were there. it was a jazz thing at the time, but rock and roll was coming and city lights was there. >> how was -- how old was kurty gentry? >> when i met him he was 79. he is writing a book about the mob in vegas. >> $5,000 for the trip. did you buy the rav 4 new? >> leased it new, yes. >> still have it. in addition, what did it cause you to get this book published? >> nothing at the time. it is an amazon book it cost me nothing to do the e-book. amazon makes everything extremely easy and cheap to do. then i created the paperback version. zero. printed on demaned. you go to amazon and you can get the e-book for $5.00 or get a paperback copy for $12. as soon as you push the button, they call somebody and -- in south carolina and the printed the book and mail it to. there is no inventory cost. i would not do this. if it were not for amazon, we would not be sitting here. the book wou