even though they don't mind the contraception and even though this has become a conversation about kerpgsion, not freedom and liberty, they like it and approve it for others but don't want the church constantly beaten up. >> yeah, and we've been reading all this coming out of white house. three women, sebelius, valeri jarrett, all went to the president and said we have to make sure the women that work in these institutions are covered for repro duketive rights and birth control and then a couple guys got involved, the chief of staff bill daley and the president said nice try, guys, i'm listening to these women here. and they never listened to the ramifications. >> yeah, it's being framed as a war against the church, and it's really res on ating a lot better than the war against christmas, which is kind of a fathom. but the war against the church, the people perceive it that way and that government is intruding. that has some weight to it, whereas contraceptives, that's something that 9% of people -- >> rick santorum talks about is it in terms of liberty. and also quite honestly the democrati