. >> john: kerri kupec, you are the attorney not me, you worked for the justice department, not me. everything we were talking about shannon about, whether it even gets into a courtroom. >> it might not, but i would be very skeptical if weiss's office offered hunter biden another plea deal. look how the last thing went. i don't see that happening again, i really don't. but i do think this could be an interesting opportunity tore question to 2024 candidates. a lot of talk about pardoning donald trump, and so the question now becomes would you be willing to pardon donald trump, hunter biden, maybe even joe biden. we don't know what's going on in that investigation. let's not forget, i think we all forget, a special counsel looking into joe biden as well with respect to classified documents. now throw in the impeachment inquiry, a lot of stuff swirling out there. >> john: and one more scenario. what happens if hunter biden pleads guilty and throws himself on the mercy of the court. >> yeah, it's certainly a possibility. but again, we don't know what else is brewing at the doj. don't kn

kerri kupec urbana, former counselor to attorney general bill barr and she will join us, first chad pergram from capitol hill. hi, chad. >> gillian, good afternoon. a major indictment for a senator indicted for corruption and cleared in a mistrial just a few years ago. the fed slapped menendez and his wife with counts of using his office to help egypt. >> as you can see here, this is the mercedes benz we allege your rebate provided as part of the scheme. you see here three kilograms of gold. those together are worth approximately $150,000. and of course, here you can see just a fraction of the cash that was uncovered as part of the scheme. >> in a statement, menendez accused prosecutors of "trying to silence my voice and dig my political grave." he also said prosecutors misrepresented the work of his congressional office. menendez claimed he did nothing wrong in april as allegations swirled. >> this inquiry will end up, i believe, in absolutely nothing. number two, you know, the history you just recited, not only did the jurors not believe the government's case at the time, but the judge ki

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kerri kupec urban, just going again over the three counts, count one, false statement purchase of a firearmtwo, related to information required to be kept by federal firearms licensed dealer and count three, possession of a firearm by a person who was an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance. just pick up where we left off with jonathan. karine jean-pierre said emphatically no, when asked by mark meredith about the potential for a pardon. but we may find out in the days and weeks ahead if blood is indeed thicker than water here. >> yeah, it's going to be interesting. politics got hunter biden a sweetheart deal and politics ended the deal as well, when doj was exposed for what it was, and what they did, and picking up on something jonathan just said, the irony here is that it's highly likely that hunter biden and his attorneys are going to have to argue that this provision, this law that's being applied against him in this gun case, is unconstitutional, in direct -- very different from what his father is saying. >> john: he has not gone to trial yet, don't know if he will be

kerri kupec urbahn, is coming up, people have a lot of questions. it. >> bill: oh, yeah. >> sandra: understatement? >> bill: yes. >> sandra: new school year but many districts the same fight for parental rights. bill bennet is here on what recourse parents will have. >> bill: students and congress are split over president biden's latest student loan forgiveness plan. grover norquist is here to tell us how much the handout could cost you, the taxpayer. >> education is good and stuff, but i mean -- student loans are meant to be paid back. >> support any president student loan handout. costs too much to go to college. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ directv sports central gives you access to every game. but terry doesn't have directv. come on. work for dad- here... now, you can find the game easy. my barbecue is saved! get in the redzone with spor

kerri kupec urban, to clear things up, bill barr resigned when? >> in december. >> december. >> of 2020. in 2020. his last day. >> john: you perked up when you heard merrick garland say he considered potentially considered naming a special counsel than david weiss but considered the consequences would be too great. >> the first time we have heard that from him. i had been struck earlier by earlier questioning from congressman from oregon, he said did you consider the allegations of bias and incompetence that weiss may be bringing to the table given how all these things have fallen apart. and the way garland responded to that, well, i don't know about those facts and i didn't interfere in the case. ok, well, it is your job to appoint the special counsel and you do need to take into consideration if people are saying this guy is incompetent and is not going to do a good job, he answered that a little more in-depth and said look, i did consider the possibility of what it would mean to not have weiss there, but given the consequences, probably even mo