, he was part of the team along with ambassador bill burns, who led the secret negotiations with the iranians in the beginning. later secretary kerryy wendy sherman, our colleagues here at msnbc but it was jake that opened up those negotiations. and avril haines, first class, secretary kerry, who i worked with when i was ambassador to moscow, i would say a couple of things, very competent people, very experienced people, hard working people who are going to get up every morning to advance america's national interest. they're not going to have any doubts about that oath of office that you read earlier. they' there are going to be policy differences, people will have different positions with biden and harris. but you won't have any question about their kbe tennesscompeten. competency will come back. >> regaining a leadership role in america, where are the pockets of opportunities to demonstrate that? rejoining the climate control commission helps. where dou we show leadership in an unstable woshld rigrld right? >> it's a very complicated question. there's no resetting to go back to 2016. there's a sigh of relief and the world, at lea