kerry dingle and the writer and broadcaster paul embery raged.u're talking about china and all of the emissions , but you're not the emissions, but you're not pointing out that that is because their manufacture for everything. you're absolutely right. point right. i've made this point often i've ponder, you often and i've ponder, do you think people would or think people would be able or willing to pay more for our goodsif willing to pay more for our goods if it was not to be manufactured in china? i don't know . i don't know if people know. i don't know if people would. but anyway, get in touch and let me know your thoughts. let's talk, shall we? children missing children, to be precise, when to education, when it comes to education, because the centre for social justice think tank, they've now warned the failure to get warned that the failure to get children to school after children back to school after the could lead to the pandemic could lead to a rise in violent offenders. now, when it comes to absenteeism, it apparently is doubled since the

we have kerry dingle with us.thank news. we have kerry dingle with us. thank you very much indeed.me to you, just read, reread the statement that was released to the pa news agency by vicky flint. that's the wife of hugh edwards, the bbc newsreader . it said, in light of newsreader. it said, in light of the recent reporting regarding the recent reporting regarding the bbc presenter end quote. i am making the statement on behalf of my husband, hugh edwards, what have been edwards, after what have been five difficult days five extremely difficult days for our family, i am doing this primarily out of concern for his mental well—being and to protect our children . our children. >> yes, there we go. she >> yes, well, there we go. she obviously went on to say, didn't she as well, that hugh edwards is in hospital receiving treatment. he has had a serious medical episode and his depression has got worse. and he will be in a medical facility for some time. david, i'll bring you in now. david starkey well , you in now. david starkey well, there's a lot to react to here. i'm just going to get

and kerry dingle of world right, two very different opinions.whose are comment, emma, whose side are you on? >> it's too nuanced for that. i can't i can't give you a quick answer to that. but what i will say is we do need we do in the current situation with china and russia, a military russia, we do need a military alliance teeth . and i alliance that has teeth. and i think it makes sense. of think that it makes sense. of course, ukraine can't join until after the because then nato after the war because then nato would drag every other country that of nato into war that is part of nato into war with russia. so that would a with russia. so that would be a ridiculous suggestion. idea ridiculous suggestion. the idea that it should join nato further down the line. yes, sure. but we can't jump the gun because , you can't jump the gun because, you know, there are some people who want to have negotiated want to have a negotiated settlement it's settlement in ukraine. so it's actually very complex. so i can't give an all out which can't give you an all