government representing the interests of the communist party choosing otherwise today hong kong's leader kerry lim finally some would say begins a series of what she builds community dialogues the people are skeptical have a listen. they wouldn't listen when 200000 people marched on the streets so why would they listen to just 150 people. i think it's entirely pointless. we have mary whale out of hong kong joining us she is a journalist at quartz media who's covered the protests all summer marry this man we've just heard he says it's pointless does he have a point. i think he states to the overwhelming sentiment among process this which is that these dialogue. sessions much like the drop the tradition bill is too little too late and the protesters have been very clear about what they want it's a fight for moms one of which has already been addressed that the that will drop the swedish vote but beyond that we also wore other things set up of in the in the investigation leaves and retracting the right the sick nation of the person that's amnesty because that's that's the best since june and of cours