and that's david gergen's point, kerstin. >> and i do think this is something that really requires astigation because in the vacuum people are jumping to conclusions and donald trump is helping them to jump to conclusions by basically saying of course they would never even do this, he would never tell congress about this unless there was something in these letters that -- in these e-mails that would be cause for concern, which doesn't appear to be the case, but this narrative is already out there and the story's already being told about -- being this and i think that director comey needs to get in the middle of this and really provide some facts and some guidance about exactly what is going on. >> mark preston i hate to do this but i have to take a break and i promise you'll get the first word on the other side. >> it's going to be a long word. >> october surprises are nothing new in the presidential campaigns, but could today's move by the fbi change the course of this election? i am rich. with fans clamoring for our next hit album, we return to our extravagant private studio, where

. >> kerstin powers is this scandal baked in with voters as hillary clinton tried to argue or could this have independents move toward donald trump? >> democrats made a decision they had sort of made their peace with this but her answer to the question was a little tone deaf because it's not quite right to the extent that people -- other people, independent voters, undecided voters have made up their mind. what they've made up their mind, they're very uneasy about it and that's why we saw her trust numbers really drop off after the e-mail server became a -- a central issue in this campaign, and it's something that has dogged her this entire time and you have to wonder what this campaign would have been been like had this not happened. instead of saying this is sort of baked into it, which is essentially what she was saying, she should have taken the opportunity to remind people director comey did not find any grounds to prosecute her or they didn't do anything wrong, they have complied with everything, if i were her, i would have taken the opportunity to sort of reassure people, and in t

let's discuss it with kerstin powers and a veteran of two veteran gop presidential campaigns.oth of you here. donald trump says that very soon he will be presenting evidence that proves that these allegations, that these, at least five women, have come forward with are not true. but, thus far, kerstin, what he has decided to do is go after the women coming forward with these allegations and let me play for you a snippet of what he said yesterday about one of them. >> take a look. you take a look. look at her. look at her words. you tell me what you think. i don't think so. i don't think so. >> what did that mean to you? take a look at her, take a look at her words. i don't think so. >> well, i think i've heard some trump supporters trying to defend him. but to me it was pretty clear hat he w that he was saying, look at her. she is not attractive enough for me to sexually assault because sexual assault isn't about lust, it's about power and about abuse. but i don't find it all that surprising considering the things that he has said in the past in terms of defending roger ailes

. >> to that point, kerstin, does it galvanize something that didn't exist in terms of voters or reinforcinget said people already thought? >> well, i think women were already galvanized, but i think it certainly helps. it was a moment, i think, for a lot of women when you watched that especially when -- let's be honest. she wasn't being nasty. she took a dig at him on something that was true, he hadn't paid taxes in a long time and you compare to margaret's point about the double standard. you compare that to a very personal attacks he makes against her constantly and constant interrupting and constant put downs against her which, for the most part, sort of rises above and takes it. when she sort of takes a little dig at him, suddenly she's a nasty woman. it's this idea, like margaret was saying, somehow a woman who acts in any way that would be, you know, considered too aggressive or getting out of her place and it was a moment where you could see him just trying to really sort of put her in her place. and i think for a lot of women, that's extremely offensive. >> madison, how did you hear